Guitar Preamp

sghioto

Joined Dec 31, 2017
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To the negative end of the 9 volt supply.
Correct.
Never seen an arrangement like that before. Wonder how the guitar amp will respond.
Usually the negative end of the battery is ground or common along with the input and output signals.
I added a 2.2uf filter for the bias supply and a 3.3K resistor on the output to eliminate some crossover distortion at higher frequencies as seen on the bench test.
Not shown is a 10uf from pin4 to pin7.

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LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
5,101
I would make sure that the Power-Supply is set-up in a manner that
duplicates the way it's done in popular Commercial-Stomp-Boxes to
avoid any clashes with other devices,
especially if it will be used with a Mains-Powered-External-Power-Supply.
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Paul Bober

Joined May 11, 2024
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I would make sure that the Power-Supply is set-up in a manner that
duplicates the way it's done in popular Commercial-Stomp-Boxes to
avoid any clashes with other devices,
especially if it will be used with a Mains-Powered-External-Power-Supply.
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As long as this preamp uses a separate power supply, there's no problem. You would not want to use the same power supply, for this preamp and effects pedals.
 

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Paul Bober

Joined May 11, 2024
86
Correct.
Never seen an arrangement like that before. Wonder how the guitar amp will respond.
Usually the negative end of the battery is ground or common along with the input and output signals.
I added a 2.2uf filter for the bias supply and a 3.3K resistor on the output to eliminate some crossover distortion at higher frequencies as seen on the bench test.
Not shown is a 10uf from pin4 to pin7.

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LowQCab

Joined Nov 6, 2012
5,101
As long as this preamp uses a separate power supply, there's no problem.
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Many Commercial-Pedal-Boards have a Single-Power-Supply for all Pedals.

Do You really think that there's no one out there
who would dare to plug your Box into some other convenient Power-Supply ?,
in addition to now being wired in parallel to several other odd and assorted Effects-Boxes ?

I can guarantee that it WILL HAPPEN !!!

It must be designed to be completely "Idiot-Proof" !!!
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Paul Bober

Joined May 11, 2024
86
Not all effects pedals use 9 volts. Some use 18 volts. Wouldn't you need a separate power supply for the 18 volt effects ?
 

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Paul Bober

Joined May 11, 2024
86
I need them low, because I want to use the divider voltage as.a ground reference, for the audio input, audio output, gain loop, and the 150K resistor to the non inverting input.
 

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Paul Bober

Joined May 11, 2024
86
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Many Commercial-Pedal-Boards have a Single-Power-Supply for all Pedals.

Do You really think that there's no one out there
who would dare to plug your Box into some other convenient Power-Supply ?,
in addition to now being wired in parallel to several other odd and assorted Effects-Boxes ?

I can guarantee that it WILL HAPPEN !!!

It must be designed to be completely "Idiot-Proof" !!!
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Idiot Proof design attached.
 

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Paul Bober

Joined May 11, 2024
86
A2 buffers the output of the capacitive divider, from the midpoint and ground. The two 22uF capacitors in series form an 11uF, power supply bypass capacitor.
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
13,158
A2 buffers the output of the capacitive divider, from the midpoint and ground. The two 22uF capacitors in series form an 11uF, power supply bypass capacitor.
In theory, you might be right, but what happens if one of them is 22u—20% and the other is 22uF+20%?
What happens if one capacitor has more leakage current than the other?
What effect does the IC input bias current have?
And how are capacitive dividers supposed to work on DC?
It’s a pity that simulators are not idiot-proof.
 
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Paul Bober

Joined May 11, 2024
86
Capacitive dividers work similar to resistive dividers, however, I wouldn't expect much output current from such low value capacitors. This is why I used the 2nd op amp of the TL082 op amp package, as a buffer. It has 1 Trillion ohms of input resistance.
 
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