Family Says Man Burned To Death In Sauna When Timer Malfunctions

jpanhalt

Joined Jan 18, 2008
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You can cook meat by boiling and even at lower temperatures (e.g., 145°F or 60+°C) without charring. Muscle will turn brown at those temperatures. I don't know about human skin.
John
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Something just doesn't seem right about this story. While I am no sauna guru:

Read the instructions relating the sauna that you're using. Most saunas will carry their own health guidelines and warnings. It is important to familiarize yourself with these prior to using the sauna. If you don't see any instructions, ask the person in charge of caring for the sauna for more information. Check the temperature. The maximum allowed sauna temperature in Canada and the United States is 194°F (90°C). Some European countries allow much higher temperatures, which can be unsafe.
Does the temperature feel right for you personally, or is it just too hot? If it stays feeling too hot, ask that it be turned down, or keep out.
Now I figure a sauna should have an over temperature control system and additionally every sauna I have been in has a large thermometer or temperature indicating device on the wall. So what happened? Did the victim in this case pass out before figuring he should exit the sauna? While I haven't a clue what the proper cooking and browning temperature is for humans I would guess it to be well over 200 degrees F. Can't find it in any cookbooks I have. So did any over temperature protection fail and this guy just failed to exit? There is no mention of a coroner report as to cause of death? Also, that 194 degrees figure is an absolute maximum, most run considerably cooler than that.

Ron
 

Nykolas

Joined Aug 27, 2013
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CSA/UL regulation require a temperature cut-off and timer limit of 30 minutes.
So the guy fell asleep or past out. The sauna ran out of water, the temperature limit switch did not cut off power and the timer did not work. If the inside of the room was wood, it would have gone off in flames!
Great maintenance work! E
 

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
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I don't think so. Even if there are people stupid enough to not leave when they are on the edge of death, you cant char them with humidity. This guy probably had a circulatory failure and died before the timer clocked out.

Either that or we should all sue a lot of mattress companies because most people die in a bed.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I don't think so. Even if there are people stupid enough to not leave when they are on the edge of death, you cant char them with humidity. This guy probably had a circulatory failure and died before the timer clocked out.

Either that or we should all sue a lot of mattress companies because most people die in a bed.
The article didn't say that his skin was charred... but that his skin looked black... Now, for the sake of argument, can skin color change due to some reaction on a death like this? Perhaps the guy was just "too blue" for the poor girl to tell the difference?
Or maybe it's time to call Mulder and Scully so they can solve the mystery...
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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It also claims his skin came off and stuck to the bench!

Something is goofy with this story. I'll think it over while I'm in the steam room. Back in a couple hours. ;)
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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Their in it for the money. Their overall appearance in the video is not the least bit convincing to me of being two people who just lost someone they love.

To me they look like two people who lost someone they tolerated and found a potential way to make a pile of money from his demise. :mad:

Now that said saunas don't just have timers they also have temperature limiting systems as well so depending on whether it was a infrared wet type that might top out at around 130 F or a dry type that would be around 180 F thats the realistically highest temps that would be achieved.

Granted either is hot enough to be fatal if given enough time but not anywhere hot enough to cook a person to a crispy brown in only a few hours.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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I agree, their acting was not very good. "We shouldn't have to see that"? Who thinks that way about a loved one?
It'll be interesting to see what the autopsy reveals.
 

GopherT

Joined Nov 23, 2012
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The way the headline was written, I don't think the local CBS station believed them either. Otherwise, the fist two words would have been omitted.


Family Says Man Burned To Death In Sauna When Timer Malfunctions
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
8,727
The way the headline was written, I don't think the local CBS station believed them either. Otherwise, the fist two words would have been omitted.


Family Says Man Burned To Death In Sauna When Timer Malfunctions
Which could also read... "colluded people"... or "bunch of rednecks"... or "attention starved group"...
 

Glenn Holland

Joined Dec 26, 2014
703
Reminds me of the old joke about a frog swimming in a pot on a stove.

If you very gradually turn the heat up, the frog won't try to jump out until it's too late!!!
 
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