Say Goodbye to Incandescent Light Bulbs (msn.com) It has finally come to pass, at least in the US! I wonder what they are going to do about all the existing devices that use them like vehicles, flashlights, panel indicators, etc.

 

 

They've come up with some astonishing savings numbers but from my experience with the 1st generation fluorescent replacements and LEDs their longevity hasn't lived up to the projected savings due to their high price and short life of the bulbs.

 

Yes, most of Edison's famous inventions are now more or less obsolete including, but not limited to: the practical incandescent bulb, film movies, the phonograph (except for a few die-hards), DC power distribution, and the carbon mike (which made Bell's early telephone practical).

He also came close to inventing the first diode vacuum tube when he observed the Edison Effect, but didn't follow up on that observation to realize its practical application as a detector of radio waves, until Fleming invented it about 20 years after that.

 

but from my experience with the 1st generation fluorescent replacements and LEDs their longevity hasn't lived up to the projected savings due to their high price and short life of the bulbs.

Maybe for the first generation of LEDs.
But the present generation costs not that much more than incandescent bulbs, with a much longer life, and efficiency better than fluorescent's.

 

I haven't had good lifetime from either flourescent or LED. I have a first generation Sylvania LED that had a 22 year warranty. The company wouldn't even respond when I tried to get a replacement.

 

I've been using LEDs totally in my home for several years and have had only one burn out that was on for basically 24 hours a day for couple years.

 

Incandescent bulb are not obsolete, they are being forced off the market by the threat of government guns and prisons while LP records are still popular.
https://www.themanual.com/culture/why-vinyl-is-coming-back/


https://www.statista.com/chart/7699/lp-sales-in-the-united-states/

 

Incandescent bulb are not obsolete, they are being forced off the market by the threat of government guns and prisons

Really?
Guns and prisons?

As far a LP records are concerned, I have nothing particular against them. I listened to them and their deficiencies in music reproduction until CD's arrived, with none of those deficiencies.

 

Really?
Guns and prisons?

As far a LP records are concerned, I have nothing particular against them. I listened to them and their deficiencies in music reproduction until CD's arrived, with none of those deficiencies.

Yes. Why not let the market decide instead of using force.

 

Yes. Why not let the market decide instead of using force.

The problem is that people are dumb and bad at math.

They'll choose a (slightly, these days) incandescent bulbs over an LED bulb, failing to understand/consider that the LED bulb will use 80% less electricity.

 

Home use aside... What about all the existing industrial controls lamps, older model automobile lamps, and flashlights (although they have quickly been out marketed by new LED flashlights). There are a few in the market but nothing like for the larger market for home use.

 

My only issue with losing incandescent bulbs are the automatic systems I have in my house that rely on them.

Those being old GE PIR type that light the back my dark basement or my front sun porch when I enter the house after dark, I also have several used in hallways.

Of course I can always replace them, but that will cost me money...and being the nerd I am some of them have been retrofitted into hard wired systems that were modular at the start. (so more work than you might expect)

Back when the elimination of incandescent bulbs was first proposed I made the argument that my auto systems actually save more energy than the CFL lamps of the day...for example my porch light would be on for a short time when I enter the house as compared to having to leave it on during the entire day so it will be on when I get home, and also the hallway lights would be on only for short times compared to leaving them on all night long.

But, nobody wanted to listen.

 

Why not let the market decide instead of using force.

I'm really surprised that a person of your apparent intelligence would even ask such a question.
It implies that the market always will do what's best for the country.
Do you really believe that?
Or should we just do away with all laws that regulate capitalism, and let the market run amuck?

 

The market sure doesn't make the right choice when it comes to keeping jobs in the US.

 

Yes. Why not let the market decide instead of using force.

Some rob you with a gun, some with a fountain pen...

 

My only issue with losing incandescent bulbs are the automatic systems I have in my house that rely on them.

I don't understand that.
Why can't they be converted to LED lamps?

 

One consequence of the switch to LED bulbs may be increased heating costs. On cooler days, a couple lamps with incandescent bulbs in an occupied room, the heat given off by those bulbs might be enough to prevent the occupant from turning up the heat, possibly to the whole house.

Excuse the run-on sentence

 

I don't understand that.
Why can't they be converted to LED lamps?

Because the power is supplied through the bulbs that power the system, and yea I sure wish I could just change the bulbs to LED...sure would make things a lot easier.

 

Because the power is supplied through the bulbs that power the system

That never occurred to me.
Seems rather odd.
So how does it get power when the bulbs are lit?

You could perhaps wire across the bulb with a resistor to provide sufficient power to the circuit (probably could be a fairly high resistance), allowing the use of LEDs.