Driven Right Leg Feedback

drjohsmith

Joined Dec 13, 2021
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No. I'm the only patient and i will always use batteries in both bioamplifier and laptops. And i don't need to modify the Brainmaster unit because the g.USBamp can probe up to 2400 Hz.

Btw.. after a day of reading and asking. I figured out the dynamics of the driven right legs. It has to do with negative feedback in the op amp. The DRL has negative feedback amp. The negative input is connected to the mean of the common modes in the input. And the DRL tries to make it like the positive input zero reference. In other words, the input common mode can turn zero. The output of the DRL can be whatever voltage or current to make the inputs similar. Right now I'm wondering why the DRL output has to form connection to the foot to make a loop with the chest inputs. Once I figured that out. I can make the voltage against time plots you were asking me. Stay tuned. I'll meditate on it.
as to why the rightbfoot ,
thats a good question, I.e. does that mean someone with no right foot can't have an ecg ?
I've never thought of it , but my conclusion is it's convention.
it could be the left leg, or even on the stomach, id imagine the results would be slightly different , but I dont know .
Just stick to convention unless you have reason to go against it.
BTW. I don't think it ,makes any difference to the hand drawn graphs I've asked you for as to what foot its on.
 

drjohsmith

Joined Dec 13, 2021
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We have been discussing for weeks. In case you are wondering what I'm measuring. Have you heard of Kundalini? In Europe, they used bioamplifiers to study the Kundalini. To get idea of what it is. When you are free, try to watch X-men: Dark phoenix (sample screenshots below). In thousands of us worldwide, it's like the Phoenix force has entered us. Yes, it has entered me in the past. Laymen call it Kundalini, but we can call it the Phoenix force (because it has very similar descriptions). I want to learn how to control it. And European researchers showed bioamplifiers in 1000Hz can study the Phoenix force.

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Kundalini is part of it. Are you familiar with the hard problems of consciousness and qualia? In the Big Bang, some force is left in matter and it is part of who we are.

"There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy (or circuits), Horatio".
kindalini

the findings belief of a divine feminine energy located at the base of female spines ?


I thought you said you were doing these medical testing on yourself?

I understood kindalini was part of a divine belife ? im not certain that anyone has managed to meassure the divine..

do you have any links to these European research papers meassuring the phoenix force you mention please .

BTW. you mention 1Khz , ecg machines and basing circuits are normaly aimed at and designed for the 10s of Hz range ,
not certain what sort of results you would get at Khz range .
 

drjohsmith

Joined Dec 13, 2021
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Biofield Frequency Bands—Definitions and Group Differences - PMC

Just download the pdf for easier reading.

The European researchers used the gtec g.USBamp and active electrodes. This is the reason I kept talking about the g.USBamp to match their equipments.. but they used electromagnetically shielded room or Faraday cage which I can't build. Hence want to master eliminating noises to substitute for lack of Faraday cage.

The standard term for it is just the Biofield, and it is super multidisciplinary in the cutting edge of science and technology. To produce a correct theory needs experts in all fields including electronics to figure out the full physics of it.

If I can't replicate it, then at least I know the Biofield can't be measure by bioamplifiers.

I'm only after the data, i don't mind if it can't be replicated, no problem. So please debunk it if you can. At least if it is not real, then I can study other data to arrive at the full physics of Biofield that can be scrutinized in all its aspect and make it become part of science.
Interesting comment in that link

"Measurements were conducted in an electrically shielded laboratory

Is suggest you initially try to reproduce their tests
 

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Secan

Joined Sep 20, 2024
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Interesting comment in that link

"Measurements were conducted in an electrically shielded laboratory

Is suggest you initially try to reproduce their tests
I'm trying to lessen the noise floor. To compensate for lack of electrically shielded laboratory. Have you encountered a commercially available independent DRL device that can be added to any main unit? (without building one?) Does the following schematic make sense?

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i don't know if the g.USBamp common mode voltage zeroing is adequate, or I should add the above (noting the g.USBamp has no DRL). But here is what puzzles me now. If it's possible to build a Bio amplifier that doesn't require DRL. Why don't manufacturer just them without DRL?? Is it because it's more difficult to build one without DRL that has same common mode voltage performance of a DRL enabled unit?
 

drjohsmith

Joined Dec 13, 2021
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I'm trying to lessen the noise floor. To compensate for lack of electrically shielded laboratory. Have you encountered a commercially available independent DRL device that can be added to any main unit? (without building one?) Does the following schematic make sense?

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i don't know if the g.USBamp common mode voltage zeroing is adequate, or I should add the above (noting the g.USBamp has no DRL). But here is what puzzles me now. If it's possible to build a Bio amplifier that doesn't require DRL. Why don't manufacturer just them without DRL?? Is it because it's more difficult to build one without DRL that has same common mode voltage performance of a DRL enabled unit?
they obviously used a shielded room for a reason, these are expencive and not normal, im certain if a simple few options amps could fix the problem they would have done that !

as for specifying for you a medical device to measure this "Kundalini" , I have no experiance in that

can I conclude with my warning , do not do any medical procedures or tests on yourself or anyone else without qualified supervision ,
also do not use any mains connected equipment in medical work , be that research or procedural without the proper facilities, support systems in place, do not modify any medical equipment and always use as per the manufacturese specification,
 
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