Doggone back acting up again.

Who has been out of commission for at least 3 days with muscle spasms in their back?


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wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
18,106
Yep. Sometimes a stuck joint being unlocked really stings for a moment but a few minutes later it's so much better!
"really stings" is an understatement. When my lower back was "out" once when I was a kid, my mom had me lay on the bed face down with a couple pillows under my hips. When it went back into place, I honestly wondered if I'd ever walk again. I thought she'd done me in. But within minutes I was good to go. (Oh how I long for the days when I could heal in minutes instead of days.)

My current chiropractor, who I think is a good one, does not use those little tapper things much except as an adjunct to significant pressure with his hands. I have to admit good results from a chiropractor that did use those tappers, but for the most part I always felt like they couldn't possibly make much real and lasting adjustment with such little applied power.
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
2,867
That reminds me, my good doc used to, "cook" me for half a hour with a doctor quality TENS machine so he didn't have to work so hard.
It worked! Work effort necessary was reduced by about 70%.
Since being hooked up to his enough times I figured I would get my own, and although I don't use it very much when I do I really see why they are necessary for larger muscle bound people. :cool:

I set mine for just short of 'light Taser knockdown.' and run it for 30 - 60 minutes at that. :p
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
2,867
"really stings" is an understatement. When my lower back was "out" once when I was a kid, my mom had me lay on the bed face down with a couple pillows under my hips. When it went back into place, I honestly wondered if I'd ever walk again. I thought she'd done me in. But within minutes I was good to go. (Oh how I long for the days when I could heal in minutes instead of days.)

Yea I've slipped a few of my own vertebrae back in a number of times and there have been some where it was clear that when things shifted back the right way a major nerve was right in the pinch spot.

Rather interesting how you never notice how little sensation you have in one extremity until you regain it all at once and then get sensory overload from that area a moment later. :D

I had my lower neck and upper back all pop at once while using the traction harness. After the 'lighting strike jolt' sensations subsided I swear I could feel the air move across each individual fingerprint line in my right hand. That lasted for several days before I got used to having full sensation back in that hand. :eek:
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
4,390
My L4/L5 was so screwy I had a noticeable list to the starboard. When I finally went to the chiropractor, he pushed it back in .... and after an initial MFR out of my mouth, my back felt great and I could stand upright.

Every now and then I get an adjustment. Far less frequent than the first round.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
836
My L4/L5 was so screwy I had a noticeable list to the starboard. When I finally went to the chiropractor, he pushed it back in .... and after an initial MFR out of my mouth, my back felt great and I could stand upright.

Every now and then I get an adjustment. Far less frequent than the first round.
MFR?

kv:(
 

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#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
18,224
Bad joke time: What starts with, "f" and ends with (***)...

Went to the doc today for a cortisone injection into the nasty, renegade muscle.
I told him the cortisone pills broke the spasm in about 34 hours...which was Saturday night.
He declined to do the injection because the goal had been accomplished.
No argument here. Just sore as all get out after 15 days of hard spasm.
I think it might take another week before I get done being sore and am able to stretch out my muscles and walk with a rhythm.
(Yay, heating pad on a dimmer!) About 30% of the knob rotation fired into the Low setting of the heating pad control keeps that area snuggley warm all night without burning anything.

There is room to wonder why my Primary Care Physician and about 6 hospital doctors gave me absolutely nothing (except food and water) when this could have been stopped on the third day with a cortisone injection.

The War on Drugs? Everybody assumes I'm a drug addict, so I get nothing? (Swear to Dog, not one person ever touched me so they could feel the knotted up muscle.) A massive disconnect between book learnin' and understanding the functioning of a human body? The separation of specialties such that everybody, "rules out" something, but nobody is responsible for actually treating the patient?
I can't believe western medicine has grown so dysfunctional that 7 doctors couldn't treat a muscle spasm if they had 2 weeks to figure it out.:mad:

or does this belong in the Future of AHCA Thread?

...(firetruck):rolleyes:
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
2,867
Bad joke time: What starts with, "f" and ends with (***)...

Went to the doc today for a cortisone injection into the nasty, renegade muscle.
I told him the cortisone pills broke the spasm in about 34 hours...which was Saturday night.
He declined to do the injection because the goal had been accomplished.
No argument here. Just sore as all get out after 15 days of hard spasm.
I think it might take another week before I get done being sore and am able to stretch out my muscles and walk with a rhythm.
(Yay, heating pad on a dimmer!) About 30% of the knob rotation fired into the Low setting of the heating pad control keeps that area snuggley warm all night without burning anything.

There is room to wonder why my Primary Care Physician and about 6 hospital doctors gave me absolutely nothing (except food and water) when this could have been stopped on the third day with a cortisone injection.

The War on Drugs? Everybody assumes I'm a drug addict, so I get nothing? (Swear to Dog, not one person ever touched me so they could feel the knotted up muscle.) A massive disconnect between book learnin' and understanding the functioning of a human body? The separation of specialties such that everybody, "rules out" something, but nobody is responsible for actually treating the patient?
I can't believe western medicine has grown so dysfunctional that 7 doctors couldn't treat a muscle spasm if they had 2 weeks to figure it out.:mad:

or does this belong in the Future of AHCA Thread?

...(firetruck):rolleyes:

That's what happens when you have a industry where the majority of those who work in it are nowhere near as qualified and capable as their credentials and pay suggest they should be. :mad:

I've lost a number of associates and family members in my life to the half wit screw ups and oversights of the supposed expert doctors who were treating them. Years credentials, years of service and pay be damned.

When a doctor kills someone because they can't solve a problem or do a procedure that should be basic experience level simple for them they don't need to have their jobs. :mad:

Some years ago an older buddy of mine lost his dad to a unexplainable surgical screw up that left him paralyzed from an intestinal hernia surgery. How the Fck do you cut a person's spinal cord while doing a stomach side abdominal incision for a herniated intestine? Well someone did and he was supposed expert at such surgery. :mad:

My Grandpa died of slow lingering heart failure a little over a year ago becasuthe heart specialist couldn't figure out why he was having heart issues 7 years after having a heart valve replacement that was well known to wear out after 6 - 7 years. WTF? We knew, The nurses knew and apparently everyone but the guy who specialized in the surgery and did it every day knew. :mad:
 

Thread Starter

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
18,224
But there's no billing code for that. :(
I believe you're on to something there. When the first hospital doc said, "You're going home whether you can walk or not", I replied, "Medicare doesn't pay for this?"

Then the second hospital, which fed me for 3 days and 3 nights said I was never, "admitted" because that would mean the government had to pay the usual amount. By, "observing" me for 3 days and 3 nights, I get to pay the lion's share of the bill.

The word, "observing" might also trigger a technicality meaning they have no obligation to treat the injury...so nobody tried.
The second hospital had at least 5 doctors doing, "rule outs" and a couple that might have been my, "official" doctor, but nobody did anything to treat the injury or advise me of what to do for myself. Only when I fired my PCP and got a 50 year old, white American D.O. did he suggest cortisone. I had a bottle of cortisone all along, but I didn't know they would be effective.:(

I did have a really good ultrasonic artery scan. One tiny flake of calcium amounting to about 2% the diameter of the artery and the technician said he would guess I'm 40 years old if he didn't know I'm 66. Lots of pleasant talk about the effects of being a long distance athlete when I was 23 to 25 years old. My resting heart rate was still a very low 59 while in severe pain!

Mark that in your book, everybody: Do some serious cardio while you're young and you will get the payoff for the rest of your life!
I'm not talking P90-X. I'm talking about a continuous hour or two a day for 2 or 3 years. When your muscles get so big that your clothes don't fit and your resting heart rate is 55 or less, you will know you're done.;)
 

Thread Starter

#12

Joined Nov 30, 2010
18,224
Some years ago an older buddy of mine lost his dad to a unexplainable surgical screw up that left him paralyzed from an intestinal hernia surgery.
My business partner got the opposite. A surgeon went in through his belly to fix a broken back. He put the guts back in like a bucket of fishing worms and my partner lost 13 feet of intestine.:(

Around here, "Hospice" means, "death sentence". One guy couldn't get food into his stomach. He could have been fed with a tube, but they doped him up and let him starve to death. One guy had dementia and his wife couldn't give him the care he needed, so they doped him up and let him starve to death. My brother-in-law basically quit trying after Vietnam. All he did was drink beer and smoke cigarettes. When he got COPD and wouldn't quit trying to kill himself with cigarettes, they doped him up and let him starve to death.

Not a bad way to go. I was that doped up with the squished disk. I lost 9 pounds in 16 days and don't even remember 11 of the days.
Just don't send anyone to Hospice and expect to get them back alive.

ps, I quit so many muscle relaxer pills that I can't sleep at night, but I'm barely sore today, and no spasms since Saturday.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
836
It's two words. The first is mother and the second ends in er.
In Utah around Mormons we tend to use similar language, keeping it simple MF and WTF is common. It's why I couldn't get MF-ER the R threw me off.

@#12 post helped a lot, once I knew it was derogatory broke it down pretty quickly. I just didn't know you would use vulgarities but after a round with a Chiropractor is like a round at the Dentist. You usually get a few MFR's out of me. Not so much with a Chiropractor, unless you get a stupid one that shouldn't be practicing the art.

kv
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
3,770
Bad joke time: What starts with, "f" and ends with (***)...

Went to the doc today for a cortisone injection into the nasty, renegade muscle.
I told him the cortisone pills broke the spasm in about 34 hours...which was Saturday night.
He declined to do the injection because the goal had been accomplished.
No argument here. Just sore as all get out after 15 days of hard spasm.
I think it might take another week before I get done being sore and am able to stretch out my muscles and walk with a rhythm.
(Yay, heating pad on a dimmer!) About 30% of the knob rotation fired into the Low setting of the heating pad control keeps that area snuggley warm all night without burning anything.

There is room to wonder why my Primary Care Physician and about 6 hospital doctors gave me absolutely nothing (except food and water) when this could have been stopped on the third day with a cortisone injection.

The War on Drugs? Everybody assumes I'm a drug addict, so I get nothing? (Swear to Dog, not one person ever touched me so they could feel the knotted up muscle.) A massive disconnect between book learnin' and understanding the functioning of a human body? The separation of specialties such that everybody, "rules out" something, but nobody is responsible for actually treating the patient?
I can't believe western medicine has grown so dysfunctional that 7 doctors couldn't treat a muscle spasm if they had 2 weeks to figure it out.:mad:

or does this belong in the Future of AHCA Thread?

...(firetruck):rolleyes:
Reminds me of the first time I went to the doctor with my back. He was my wife's doctor and was probably 80 at the time.
He ask me to turn around, which I did. Then he hit me (not real hard) in the kidney and ask if it hurt. I said well a little. He said, good it's not your kidneys. I still laugh about it, but he did fix me up.
 
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