Boy @#12...you are on lof of MED's

 

Boy @#12...you are on lot of MED's

Three are a lot?
I'll tell the doctor.

When the choice is 3 medications or, "can't get to food or water" I'll take 3 medications.

 

Ok




If you mean a connection between your back and your son and his girlfriend, I hope not.

If you mean, a connection between your sone and his girlfriend, I hope so.

(Spell check) I don't think you meant this ..........

sone

Yes you know what I meant, "thanks again for the lesson"

After you spend all night in pain, no sleep. You wouldn't have the strength to even type.

kv

 

(Spell check) I don't think you meant this ..........

sone

Yes you know what I meant, "thanks again for the lesson"

After you spend all night in pain, no sleep. You wouldn't have the strength to even type.

kv

Revenge of the grammar/spelling nazis?

 

The pharmacist saw me looking and ask what I was looking for. I told him and he handed me a bottle of Advil. He said one of it's side effects is that it is a muscle relaxer. It worked like magic!

Me too. Ibuprofen is one of the most effective pills I've ever taken, of any kind, right up there with antibiotics. My wife doesn't get much good from it and I can get full relief taking half the dose she does.

I was dismayed to read the study in the British Medical Journal that showed NSAIDs like ibuprofen increase risk of heart attack.

 

Revenge of the grammar/spelling nazis?

I am the least likely for that, still lacked 9 credits of English before I quit High school thank god for GED. Just enough to get into a Tech School.

English has eluded me or at least the understanding of it. Math makes sense but English is the hardest to learn, I've been spending time learning the history of English while doing my genealogy research. It's clear to me how so many people are confused by the construct of the Language.

kv

Edit: We are not alone.

 

Mine is muscle spasms also. I used to be flat on my back about twice a year. It would start to hurt and I would bend over to relieve the pain. That would make it worse. A trip to the doctor for pain pills and muscle relaxers was the fix. When we moved to California I could feel it starting to go so I went to the drug store searching for something to help. The pharmacist saw me looking and ask what I was looking for. I told him and he handed me a bottle of Advil. He said one of it's side effects is that it is a muscle relaxer. It worked like magic! Ever since when I am going to work my back I take some. I haven't been laid up for 30 years. About a week ago after a really bad round of golf I felt the same feeling, but it passed.

Everyone is different, for me it is Aleve, tylenol and advil do no more than aspirin for mine. Aleve is small dose of Naproxen, which is what worked from the doc for over 30years, until they refused give me any more.

 

Don't count on it. Back pain is still a bit of a mystery. My daughter is studying to be an Army physical therapist. She's learned that if you compared the x-rays and MRIs of 100 patients with back pain, to a group of 100 with no pain, you would not be able to tell which group is which. Imagining is of zero diagnostic value for pain. Fortunately they have other tools to measure the speed and bandwidth of nerve activity in the body, and these do provide some useful information. As you can imagine, the Army is spending on research in this area and progress is being made.

She would be able to tell mine. Three discs fused together with calcium deposits. As long as I don't do something too dumb physically they aren't to much bother. But if some calcium gets chipped off by a dumb move, I'm down for the count.

 

Everyone is different, for me it is Aleve, tylenol and advil do no more than aspirin for mine. Aleve is small dose of Naproxen, which is what worked from the doc for over 30years, until they refused give me any more.

I plan to try the Stem Cell treatment. It works for some people apparently many Athletes receive benefit from it.

kv

 

She would be able to tell mine. Three discs fused together with calcium deposits. As long as I don't do something too dumb physically they aren't to much bother. But if some calcium gets chipped off by a dumb move, I'm down for the count.

If the surgery has been a while they can go back in and clean it up. I seen an episode on Doctor OZ a guy that was splattered while riding his motorcycle previous surgery's failed, then some specialist went back in to correct scar tissue and other fused connective tissues. The guy say's it was a miracle.

kv

 

Everyone is different, for me it is Aleve, tylenol and advil do no more than aspirin for mine. Aleve is small dose of Naproxen, which is what worked from the doc for over 30years, until they refused give me any more.

I think it depends on what's wrong. I have some arthritis in my neck (actually an old whiplash injury) that doesn't respond to the Advil but likes extra strength Tylenol.

 

After you spend all night in pain, no sleep. You wouldn't have the strength to even type.

Those are the days you don't see me here.

Ibuprofen is one of the most effective pills I've ever taken,

One of my Hindu doctors told me to take Ibuprofen after surgery (instead of treating his patient). Belly burn! Can't do that.
But I can go home 20 hours after surgery and STFU.
Did I say it's hard to get treatment around here? You can't even get a bottle of pills after surgery.

 

I seen an episode on Doctor OZ

There is a guy advertising around here for minimally invasive back surgery. I like his attitude!
I don't need what he's selling, but I like his attitude.
It's basically, "Keep your bureaucracy away from me. I'm a surgeon, better than most, and I get better results than you can learn in doctor school."
If you can put that on TV and survive the attention it's going to draw, you must be doing something right.

 

Yes, as I've been learning during my indoctrination sessions at my chiropractor, the medical profession has a lot to answer for in this country. Medical 'mistakes' and pharmaceuticals are the main causes of death. Many surgical procedures have lower success rates than diet, therapy, and other less invasive treatments. And yet these butchers have the highest level of unearned arrogance of any profession and actively seek to silence anyone trying to expose them. They are largely immune to market forces, although internet ratings are having an impact.

 

I was dismayed to read the study in the British Medical Journal that showed NSAIDs like ibuprofen increase risk of heart attack.

I use high doses of ibuprofen to cut down on the amount of prescription meds I need to deal with back pain; so I asked my doctor about that study.

He shrugged and said that the people in that study were already prone to health issues...

 

the highest level of unearned arrogance of any profession

Any doctor who thinks he is a God won't last 30 seconds with me.
One God-like statement and I'll insult him like I would insult a bad plumber, except in doctor language.

"Where did you learn that word?"
"I passed high school biology, didn't you?"

 

internet ratings are having an impact.

I looked up my two worst doctors on the Internet and found they both had 2 stars out of 5. (Just a point of reference, if you want to check your own doctor options.)
Last week I got an American, male, D.O. (for the first time in 4 years) and I connected with him (mentally) in about 50 seconds.
He got the spasms (continuous for 15 days) to stop in 36 hours (after at least 6 other doctors didn't prescribe anything).

 

I think you're more likely to die of a stomach ulcer with long term ibuprofen than a heart attack. I think that the report said that the risk of a heart attack could be doubled, but double a low risk is still a low risk, and most NSAIDs increase the risk of a heart attack (& stomach ulcers) I think.

But don't forget pain is the body's protective response to damage, designed to make you stop moving that bit so it can heal. Muscle spasm is meant to stop that bit moving too, but does tend to increase the pain. So if you have a sudden onset injury & take pain relief to keep going, you're quite likely to make things worse. (They do say cortisone is the quickest way to get a horse to the knackers yard). The ideal pain relief in that situation relieves pain when you're not active but allows at least some pain when you move the problem area to remind you not to overdo it.

But with long term problems like arthritis pain relief drugs may be the only thing that gives you any kind of quality of life. But always try some of the none drug based treatments as well. If nothing else you may then be able to reduce the dose of drugs you need, & less drugs means less side effects

 

He shrugged and said that the people in that study were already prone to health issues...

What is the logical fallacy here?
If being in a drug study means the study is hopelessly skewed by the population selected, then all drug studies are worthless.

 

Many surgical procedures have lower success rates than diet, therapy, and other less invasive treatments...unearned arrogance

Once upon a time, I knew an M.D who had 3 back surgeries without consulting a D.O. or a chiropractor. Now, he is dead and I am not. Yay, hubris.