Do you watch Oak Island?

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Just finished E2 last night, E1 was more interesting to me. How to hold water back in Smiths Cove for a long enough duration to explore that area, I'm looking forward to see what is un-earthed. The bore holes are less interesting now, meh. The more that is revealed about the area and it's rich history means more to me than anything else.

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wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
18,117
Saw the start of the new seasons - here they showed E1 and E2 back-to-back. I really enjoyed watching.
Ditto. I'm finally seeing more of what I expected to see in earlier seasons, the coffer dam and the seismic imaging. I didn't feel nearly so frustrated by the constant, all-hype repetition by the narrator that was so prevalent in earlier years.

It still bothers me that they go metal detecting with one detector. Wouldn't you go out with 3 or 4 and work a grid? They may be much more thorough off-camera but it sure has a haphazard look to it. Their best finds have been at the surface, which is interesting. What were the circumstances that put that brooch where they found it? Was it dropped? Fell out of a chest? It's worth a lot, so we know it wasn't just cast aside on purpose. Interesting stuff.
 

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Raymond Genovese

Joined Mar 5, 2016
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They are definitely finding stuff.

The sonic maps are excellent if they work. When they say, "consistent with a chamber", I am wondering what else they are consistent with. Why on earth would they drill the absolutely least interesting target first or is that just the order of the presentation of events. Why not go after the 50 foot deep target??
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
836
Yes, interesting I don't want to blow it for others but @Raymond Genovese didn't find it interesting about the pointy thing they found on the beach from Lot 26. I am really interesting in the Date of it. When they mentioned roman it threw me.

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DrewStupid

Joined Nov 28, 2018
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Yep. their treasure now is the season contract renews. Rather explains the continually absurdly poor decision making and refusal to get anyone in to help them that might actually know what they are doing. :(
Oak island is most insignificant program ever !! Watch "forge in fire"
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Yes, interesting I don't want to blow it for others but @Raymond Genovese didn't find it interesting about the pointy thing they found on the beach from Lot 26. I am really interesting in the Date of it. When they mentioned roman it threw me.

kv
Maybe I'm just cynical but I assume that will turn out to be when the steel was forged, not necessarily when it was worked into a tool. Roman iron was probably being recycled throughout the dark ages? Still fascinating, but not the same.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Maybe I'm just cynical but I assume that will turn out to be when the steel was forged, not necessarily when it was worked into a tool. Roman iron was probably being recycled throughout the dark ages? Still fascinating, but not the same.
I looked for something of that same design couldn't find anything, apparently the crossbow was invented around 500 A.D. written about since the 400 A.D. but the Bolt itself is crude and maybe been a backup when you ran out of Shot or used by someone who couldn't afford a musket.

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Raymond Genovese

Joined Mar 5, 2016
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Yes, interesting I don't want to blow it for others but @Raymond Genovese didn't find it interesting about the pointy thing they found on the beach from Lot 26. I am really interesting in the Date of it. When they mentioned roman it threw me.

kv
I may not be remembering correctly, but it seemed like the Roman comment was just dangled out there regarding "pointy". That is, I thought they were referring to a style. I attributed it to being another piece in the Knight's Templar direction. In fact, as I think you and others have noted, in the end, what they might find is a new page in history by documenting the presence of visitors/explorers in that area that were previously unknown. That, in addition to documentation of all the searchers and what they did.

I appreciate the historical contribution as I do any archeological dig, What I find most entertaining, however, is the pure puzzle solving aspects. That they seem like they are getting better technical resources this season makes it that much more entertaining.

The dam may be a sucker endeavor. I hope I am wrong, but it has been tried before with only brief success as I recall. I can't wait for that metal detector that can detect 20 feet down gets a hit - I thought they teased us that they did get a hit two episodes ago but they didn't exploit it during this latest episode except to have it find shallow stuff.

I don't think we are getting the finds in chronological order with regard to when they find them. No way I go to verify a searcher tunnel when a better target that is more accessible (the 50 feet down chamber) exists.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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I may not be remembering correctly, but it seemed like the Roman comment was just dangled out there regarding "pointy". That is, I thought they were referring to a style. I attributed it to being another piece in the Knight's Templar direction.
Ya, it was sort of just Dangled. But, I'm hoping since it came from the Dude with the hand held metal detector with his experience maybe he's seen these before, just as he knows about square spikes.

The dam may be a sucker endeavor. I hope I am wrong, but it has been tried before with only brief success as I recall.
Yes, my hope is they can stop the water, not until then any significant stuff underground will be a difficult to remove. What is also interesting is the half round structure by Smiths Cove uncovered by Dan Blankanship, it had roman numerals on the logs as you remember. Maybe something or maybe nothing and just the Templars carved them?

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killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Maybe I'm just cynical but I assume that will turn out to be when the steel was forged, not necessarily when it was worked into a tool. Roman iron was probably being recycled throughout the dark ages? Still fascinating, but not the same.
Never thought about that, yes very possible. Crossbow leftover with bolts remaining in an armory or as you say reworked metal. I also began to think later today, it could just be a crude spear point for Gaffing fish.

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Raymond Genovese

Joined Mar 5, 2016
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Calling Oak Island an archaeological dig is a big, big, stretch. Pot hunting yes, archaeological it isn't.
Well, nothing wrong with a little stretching now and again...looking at the irrefutable and always infallible Wikipedia:

Archaeology, or archeology, is the study of human activity through the recovery and analysis of material culture. The archaeological record consists of artifacts, architecture, biofacts or ecofacts and cultural landscapes.

and

In archaeology, excavation is the exposure, processing and recording of archaeological remains. An excavation site or "dig" is a site being studied. Such a site excavation concerns itself with a specific archaeological site or a connected series of sites, and may be conducted over as little as several weeks to over a number of years.

So, I feel that we can take Television license to stretch the definitions such that we are very loose with "material culture" and, perhaps, modify "The archaeological record consists of artifacts, architecture, biofacts or ecofacts and cultural landscapes." to The archaeological record consists of artifacts, architecture, biofacts or ecofacts and cultural landscapes and end with a pay-per-view episode.

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shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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I do hope you were joking. Think of any or all of the real evidence that has been lost, if there ever was any there. No sane or real archaeologist today would use those machines or tactics to get just an artifact. That is they way of pot hunters, or how it was done before the turn of the century, the 19th century.

I know most of the damage was done before in earlier times, but they are showing unscrupulous people that it's OK to do things, at sites that aren't previously disturbed.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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E6 - I don't even know what to say about the "official" origin of the javelin tip - wtf is going on??
Pretty fascinating. Was probably already a relic when dropped on the beach, just like the broach in the woods. Why were these folks so sloppy?!

The ultimate spear tip to find would be the one alleged to pierce the rib cage of Jesus during the crucifixion. It could arguably be expected to be stored with as much reverence as the ark of the covenant. I’m surprised they didn’t hype that angle. Maybe next week. o_O
 
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