DC Motor Power Amplifier issue

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BershaM

Joined Aug 22, 2011
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i built this DC motor power amplifier to drive the motor in both directions using an analog signal (from -1 volt to 1 volt via the potentiometer ) , the motor i use is rated for 24 volts and draws around 400mA at no load , however, when i tested it only one direction works fine ( the NPN TIP142 side) with no significant heat , the other side however doesn't drive the motor all the way to 10 volts and the PNP transistor becomes hot real fast, i replaced it with another tip147 but still got the same results, any idea what maybe causing this?

Update 1: I inserted a resistor in series with the PNP gate (5.1k) and it enhanced the motor's performance , however the oscillations still exist , should i also consider an RC snubber ??

 

AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
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Is C42 an electrolytic?

Update 1: I inserted a resistor in series with the PNP gate (5.1k) and it enhanced the motor's performance , however the oscillations still exist , should i also consider an RC snubber ??
What does 'enhanced the motor's performance' mean?
What oscillations? These are mentioned previously?
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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I assumed it to be an incidental comment on the apparent over-engineering and not intended as a reason for the original OP's complaint?;)
Max.
 

Ylli

Joined Nov 13, 2015
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I'm sure the circuit does not like driving that capacitive load. Try adding a 10 ohm resistor in series with the 1 uF.
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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Agreed, but that's not the cause of the overheating problem.
The problem is from over complicating/engineering a simple system. :p

One pot, one power Op-Amp IC, and two resistors should be all that's required a .1 uf capacitor on each power lead and across the motor.
 

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BershaM

Joined Aug 22, 2011
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@AlbertHall 1- C42 is ceramic.
2- enhanced its performance means it increased the motor's speed, should've explained it better sorry about that.
3- a semi sinusoidal wave of around 5Vpp above any dc signal i apply to the circuit, measured it at the emitter and the base of the transistors.

@tcmtech i thought the first stage would act as a buffer ( obviously not :/ ) , i tried a TDA2003 at first but i always ended up overheating it and i couldn't know why , that's why i chose to do it with darlingtons.

@Ylli thanks for your feedback will try it and see if it works.

@MaxHeadRoom i know now it may have been made alot simpler , i just wanted to experiment with darlingtons :v

Should adding a cap from Pin 14 to Ground adjust the phase shift and remove the oscillations ?
 

tcmtech

Joined Nov 4, 2013
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i thought the first stage would act as a buffer ( obviously not :/ ) , i tried a TDA2003 at first but i always ended up overheating it and i couldn't know why , that's why i chose to do it with darlingtons
Did you have a properly sized heatsink on it?

A TDA2003 Power Op-Amp should have had no problems running your motor being it's rated for 3.5 amps continuous and 20 watts thermal dissipation with a properly sized heatsink which means that with your +- 15 volt power supply rail voltages it would take a solid 1.33 amps into a stalled motor to reach its thermal dissipation rating limit.

So given that, if you overheated it with a 400 ma motor load somethings not adding up here.
 
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