Doorbell Camera design wifi only, embed before the Transformer Step Down 110 / 18-24v common doorbell voltage.

Potential issues embedded data through a transformer = loss or irreversible corruption?

At the moment my current employer utilizes a Zinwell (PoE/PLC Power Line Adapter) doing the job for an Outdoor Camera, and works well as long providing the house wiring isn’t to noisy or lacks proper tie down.

https://www.zinwell.com.tw/us/residential-broadband-solutions/g-hn-solutions/g-hn-poe-adapters

kv

Edit: Keep in mind the Doorbell camera has no such solution for a brick building. Permeablility or lack thereof, if possible the only other requirement would be to reverse data com to video storage.

 

Is English your primary language? It is my impression that it is, and that that you go out of your way to emulate an AI copywriter. If I'm wrong, please correct me and I'll be more gracious going forward.

Doorbell Camera design wifi only, embed before the Transformer Step Down 110 / 18-24v common doorbell voltage.

Potential issues embedded data through a transformer = loss or irreversible corruption?

At the moment my current employer utilizes a Zinwell (PoE/PLC Power Line Adapter) doing the job for an Outdoor Camera, and works well as long providing the house wiring isn’t to noisy or lacks proper tie down.

https://www.zinwell.com.tw/us/residential-broadband-solutions/g-hn-solutions/g-hn-poe-adapters

kv

Edit: Keep in mind the Doorbell camera has no such solution for a brick building. Permeablility or lack thereof, if possible the only other requirement would be to reverse data com to video storage.

What are you actually talking about? Wifi or power line comms? You want to replace power line comms with doorbell with a wifi doorbell? If so then why are you worried about a transformer?

 

If so then why are you worried about a transformer?

I think he means the wifi is not reliable and wants to use the power line for communication but concerned about being on the secondary side of the doorbell transformer?

 

Is English your primary language? It is my impression that it is, and that that you go out of your way to emulate an AI copywriter. If I'm wrong, please correct me and I'll be more gracious going forward.



What are you actually talking about? Wifi or power line comms? You want to replace power line comms with doorbell with a wifi doorbell? If so then why are you worried about a transformer?

What part of this don’t you understand, regardless if I can speak clearly enough for you.


Edit: Keep in mind the Doorbell camera has no such solution for a brick building.

Part 2 : Permeablility or lack thereof, if possible the only other requirement would be to reverse data com to video storage. RF signals don’t easily pass through right or wrong? If your solutions result in a node outside to reinforce the wifi signal then your on the wrong path of my point, the application required uses whole home distribution Poe/PLC data transport.

Reading part or of the whole I gave a picture and specs of a Outdoor camera solution for wifi cameras installed apart from a wifi router. That part should be understandable one would think.

kv

 

I think he means the wifi is not reliable and wants to use the power line for communication but concerned about being on the secondary side of the doorbell transformer?

Yes, now that I have that out of the way I also need the data flow back through to the router and off to a video storage device. Sheesh.


kv

 

Is English your primary language? It is my impression that it is, and that that you go out of your way to emulate an AI copywriter. If I'm wrong, please correct me and I'll be more gracious going forward.



What are you actually talking about? Wifi or power line comms? You want to replace power line comms with doorbell with a wifi doorbell? If so then why are you worried about a transformer?

I realized that my attempt at framing the question would result in a mild misunderstanding. But, you have me in a box, this comment or the other one you made in a Thread you created, my comments there, either welcome or unwelcome I don’t care is condescending and beneath you, apparently not. Since you couldn’t resist pulling the trigger again.

So, yes I emulate an AI or other if thats how it sounds to you and be more gracious,

kv

 

Clear and unambiguous writing is not an innate skill. It takes a good deal of practice and clear thought. If you can take the time to do it, and refine the result you should do that. Otherwise be prepared to be called out.

 

Clear and unambiguous writing is not an innate skill. It takes a good deal of practice and clear thought. If you can take the time to do it, and refine the result you should do that. Otherwise be prepared to be called out.

I’ll give you that.

Funny, I have an editor for that, but I could have done a better job. I provided the specific Zinwell PLC design for PoE/PLC home data power design should have within reason provided enough supportive information as to know my unobvious question. However, to respond with repetitive remark generated in another thread and regurgitating was as painful as the first time he express it.

However, I am not in his shoes either and from previous responses know, he doesn’t have the emotional response or soft skills to allow for others to make those errors according to compression skills either.

I promise I won’t or don’t require a response from him in the future, and won’t reply to any of his “Threads” as to avoid annoying him in the future.


kv

 

My question remains un-answered and clearly no one can answer it here or requires it to be added to another forum perhaps Physics Forum might work, I’m still unsure of that either.

kv

 

There are any number of transmission protocols that use transformer isolation. It all comes down to the small details of how the data is encoded and what is the data rate. Some combinations of methods will work and others won't. In particular if the data encoding protocol has a net DC component it will not play well with a transformer. If the data protocol is intended for AC coupling you will have a much better chance. You may remember the great BPL (Broadband over Power Line) debate in the early part of the century. The net result is that power lines have uncontrolled impedance characteristics and very few of them are shielded, resulting in large amounts of reflected power and considerable radiation. Ultimately the power companies abandoned the proposal when they became aware of the obstacles, both technical and political.

I think you, and by extension your employer, will be better off not going down this road. That said people with money burning a hole in their pocket will chase all manner of potential ideas.

 

My question remains un-answered and clearly no one can answer it here or requires it to be added to another forum perhaps Physics Forum might work, I’m still unsure of that either.

kv

Not 100% sure but from what I read in the manual about the device you listed the answer is NO.

 

I realized that my attempt at framing the question would result in a mild misunderstanding. But, you have me in a box, this comment or the other one you made in a Thread you created, my comments there, either welcome or unwelcome I don’t care is condescending and beneath you, apparently not. Since you couldn’t resist pulling the trigger again.

So, yes I emulate an AI or other if thats how it sounds to you and be more gracious,

kv

I was not aware that you had taken my previous comments personally, nor did I expect these to cause profound offense. I was doubly wrong and I apologize. My opinion was that you deliberately choose to write in a style (artistic license) that is very hard to follow. But maybe I am wrong about that as well, and you simply write the way that you think, which is very different from, and incompatible with the way that I think, making you hard only for me to follow. If that is a better explanation than my previous opinion then, well, maybe it's still reason enough for us not to comment on each other's threads.

I will refrain from commenting on your threads going forward, not because I have any "beef" with you, but because I have apparently caused deep offense against you and I doubt my comments are welcome. I will not block you; you're free to comment on my threads if you choose to, and if you do, I will not mention this subject again.

Again, I am sorry.

 

There are any number of transmission protocols that use transformer isolation. It all comes down to the small details of how the data is encoded and what is the data rate. Some combinations of methods will work and others won't. In particular if the data encoding protocol has a net DC component it will not play well with a transformer. If the data protocol is intended for AC coupling you will have a much better chance. You may remember the great BPL (Broadband over Power Line) debate in the early part of the century. The net result is that power lines have uncontrolled impedance characteristics and very few of them are shielded, resulting in large amounts of reflected power and considerable radiation. Ultimately the power companies abandoned the proposal when they became aware of the obstacles, both technical and political.

I think you, and by extension your employer, will be better off not going down this road. That said people with money burning a hole in their pocket will chase all manner of potential ideas.

Thats what I was looking for, I care nothing for my employers interests, they don’t pay me enough, I needed to know why a Camera doesn’t exist to meet the need.

I suspected the Transformer all along, confirmation was needed. Thank you for the history lesson, always wondered about that.

Thank you all for the help, and dealing with my unusual write as I speak, I’m sure is also painful. lol


@strantor accepted, I’m still one of your biggest fans. Can’t say enough about your posts or threads, alway delightful.

kv