To the best of my knowledge, the only "official" statement about the rifle used by Johnson is that it was an SKS-45. The photo of the Saiga AK-74 that was leaked by an unidentified source has not yet been corroborated. What's the holdup? Surely the rifle and multiple shell casings are in custody, aren't they? Why would that information be withheld? In most mass murders, the media is crying "assault rifle" within hours after the event. Are the powers that be still deciding which "truth" would be most beneficial to their agenda?

 

To the best of my knowledge, the only "official" statement about the rifle used by Johnson is that it was an SKS-45. The photo of the Saiga AK-74 that was leaked by an unidentified source has not yet been corroborated. What's the holdup? Surely the rifle and multiple shell casings are in custody, aren't they? Why would that information be withheld? In most mass murders, the media is crying "assault rifle" within hours after the event. Are the powers that be still deciding which "truth" would be most beneficial to their agenda?

Did they announce which brand shoes he was wearing yet? Are the Powers That Be withholding that information until they figure out how to best spin their agenda as well?

Oh, how about his watch? His phone? I bet he had a car in that parking garage too. Could you imagine what people are doing to spin what model car he drives?

Then the personal details, what browser did he prefer, and which search engine, yup, all are big concerns and not a bit of information from those Powers That Be.

 

Did they announce which brand shoes he was wearing yet? Are the Powers That Be withholding that information until they figure out how to best spin their agenda as well?

Oh, how about his watch? His phone? I bet he had a car in that parking garage too. Could you imagine what people are doing to spin what model car he drives?

Then the personal details, what browser did he prefer, and which search engine, yup, all are big concerns and not a bit of information from those Powers That Be.

How many police officers were killed by Johnson's shoes, watch, phone, car, browser, or search engine? If you really don't see the difference between knowing those details and knowing what gun was used, I couldn't possibly explain it to you.

 

How many police officers were killed by Johnson's shoes, watch, phone, car, browser, or search engine?

Careful, that is a very slippery slope in NRA-speak. You might get your card revoked for implying that Guns kill people.

 

There are some posters who wouldn't understand if the gun was an AK74 or a GSW45... To them, the detail of what gun was used is but noise, on par with the car model owned by the shooter.

 

There are some posters who wouldn't understand if the gun was an AK74 or a GSW45... To them, the detail of what gun was used is but noise, on par with the car model owned by the shooter.

That's where I am. It was a semiautomatic rifle. Several shots, good for distance compared to a pistol.
How many grains of weight did the bullets have?
I don't know why it makes any difference.
One of many subjects on which I am ignorant.

 

There are some posters who wouldn't understand if the gun was an AK74 or a GSW45... To them, the detail of what gun was used is but noise, on par with the car model owned by the shooter.

I agree, but I wonder why such people would bother reading a thread entitled "Dallas Cop Killer's Rifle."

 

Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember hearing anyone talk about taking away all your guns.

I have. It is all over the NRA and FNC. And some talk radio have them coming in 'black helicopters' and UN troops doing it.

 

What I have heard is them talking about limiting the capabilities of them and making them harder to get by criminals and the mentally disturbed.

The NRA has blocked the terror watch list from stopping gun sales to people on the list.

One of their latest "blocks" is to mentally ill people from being ineligible to buy guns. The Social Security Administration wanted to add the people getting SSI from being able to buy guns, by reporting the names of people receiving benefits to the NICS. These are people that under their own admission are so "mentally disabled" they can't work, but the NRA says they can't be stopped from buying guns.

 

The NRA has never written nor voted on a bill in either house. It's the legislators who are to blame for any and all action or inaction in congress. If the members all got out the lobbyists' pockets, they could vote their consciences at least some of the time.

 

One of their latest "blocks" is to mentally ill people from being ineligible to buy guns. The Social Security Administration wanted to add the people getting SSI from being able to buy guns, by reporting the names of people receiving benefits to the NICS. These are people that under their own admission are so "mentally disabled" they can't work, but the NRA says they can't be stopped from buying guns.

Most Disability Rights groups oppose this also.
http://www.ndrn.org/en/media/releases/578-press-release-executive-action-to-reduce-gun-violence.html

WASHINGTON – The National Disability Rights Network’s Executive Director, Curt Decker, issued the following statement in response to President Obama’s executive action to reduce gun violence:

“While we share President Obama’s desire to reduce gun violence, the National Disability Rights Network believes that some of his executive actions violate the rights of people with psychiatric disabilities.

“The Administration’s plan to use the Social Security Representative Payee database to identify individuals with psychiatric disabilities and place them in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), and loosening the privacy of individual’s health records unfairly targets an already vulnerable population.

“People with mental illness routinely face stigma and discrimination in many areas of their lives, including housing, employment, and education. We are deeply concerned that these actions will discourage them from seeking care or assistance out of a fear of being added to the NICS or having their privacy violated.

I just happen to be a Social Security Representative Payee for a person on SSI. Not everyone on SSI with these types of disabilities is mentally ill you tool.

 

The NRA has never written nor voted on a bill in either house. It's the legislators who are to blame for any and all action or inaction in congress. If the members all got out the lobbyists' pockets, they could vote their consciences at least some of the time.

I wouldn't be so sure. They actually claim credit for drafting the Florida "Stand Your Ground" law.

At a recent National Shooting Sports Association (NSSA) Meeting - an NRA executive made it perfectly clear the NRA was in intimate contact with all the right people at the federal level as well. I would put my money on "YES" if a Vegas casino offered a bet on whether or not the NRA has ever provided text to a Congressman or Senator that ended up in Federal legislation.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/03/27/former-nra-president-we-helped-draft-floridas-s/185254

 

The NRA has blocked the terror watch list from stopping gun sales to people on the list.

The NRA's position is clearly posted here.

The NRA's position is different than the ACLU's, which is here.

The ACLU's position reminds us that

Second, the government asserted that national security concerns meant the government couldn’t confirm or deny whether people were on the No Fly List, and it couldn’t give them reasons or a hearing before a neutral decision-maker. This is absurd as a practical matter and violates due process as a constitutional matter.

From brainyquote:

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
--- Benjamin Franklin


PBS has some good info here.

 

I would put my money on "YES" if a Vegas casino offered a bet on whether or not the NRA has ever provided text to a Congressman or Senator that ended up in Federal legislation.

Even GopherT could provide a congress critter with words that ended up in federal legislation.

Every organization tries to influence legislation at all levels. Some common phrases will be passed into law.

 

Even GopherT could provide a congress critter with words that ended up in federal legislation.

Every organization tries to influence legislation at all levels. Some common phrases will be passed into law.

Agreed, (and what you say is actually true of GopherT). I was arguing against TRACECOM who said the NRA does not write legislation.

EDIT - maybe you (@JoeJester ) were directing your comment at TRACECOM as well?

The NRA has never written nor voted on a bill in either house.

 

The NRA has never written a bill in either house. They, like all lobbyists, have very likely provided ideas and verbiage that they wanted included in bills, but the NRA has never written nor voted on a bill in either house.

 

The NRA has never written a bill in either house.

Semantics.

 

Most Disability Rights groups oppose this also.
http://www.ndrn.org/en/media/releases/578-press-release-executive-action-to-reduce-gun-violence.html


I just happen to be a Social Security Representative Payee for a person on SSI. Not everyone on SSI with these types of disabilities is mentally ill you tool.

But there are sub categories. Right?

 

But there are sub categories. Right?

These people are evaluated regularly by professional providers with a duty to report possible dangers. Determinations could be made case by case not by some blanket list of mental defectives. This was one of the most bone-headed moves by this administration ever.

https://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/12.00-MentalDisorders-Adult.htm

 

Most Disability Rights groups oppose this also.
http://www.ndrn.org/en/media/releases/578-press-release-executive-action-to-reduce-gun-violence.html


I just happen to be a Social Security Representative Payee for a person on SSI. Not everyone on SSI with these types of disabilities is mentally ill you tool.

Never said ALL people getting SSI. Just the ones claiming "mental anguish/disability"

Why is it you right siders always have to lash out at people that disagree with your thought process?