Australia and Austria are in different parts of the world!
The police in Austria will ask people at random what is the "essential" reason they are out of their home and if they have a vaccination or recovery passport. If the person does not pass then they pay a pretty big fine and rich people will fail again and again. Just like at the airports, the rich unvaxed people pay a fine again and again.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/15/china/china-dog-killed-covid-mic-intl-hnk/index.html

The killing of a corgi shows how government power has grown unchecked in China in the name of Covid prevention

A series of loud bangs startle the sleeping corgi, driving it out of its bed. The door opens and two people dressed in full hazmat suits enter the living room, one carrying a crowbar and another a yellow plastic bag.
"Did the leader say we need to settle it right here on the spot?" one of them can be heard asking. "Yes," the other replies, as he proceeds to move a table the corgi was hiding under, and strike the animal on the head with the crowbar. The dog whimpers and runs off camera to another room.

The killing of the dog, which triggered a massive outcry on Chinese social media over the weekend, is the latest example of the extreme measures taken by local authorities in China in pursuit of zero-Covid.

 

Looks like the Austrians and Australians both have to deal with the same type of government.

 

yet some are cheering for more government power on this side of the world

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/15/china/china-dog-killed-covid-mic-intl-hnk/index.html

The killing of a corgi shows how government power has grown unchecked in China in the name of Covid prevention

This is what happens when government goes unchecked. The difference between here and China is if you crash into my home uninvited you can expect a bullet coming your way. I am pretty big on Castle Doctrine as well as my right to keep and bear arms. You move on either of my dogs I will not hesitate to not only shoot you but empty my gun into you. I happen to like my personal rights as well as our dogs and have no reservation with dropping an uninvited guest or unannounced guest. Law enforcement needs to announce who they are if they break down a door. Have to wonder who the Chinese are looking to protect? With matters like this I am a government's worst nightmare, an angry 71 year old man with nothing to lose. Hey maybe if I end up in jail I can get free medical, free for me anyway. This is why I oppose government so called mandates which do little more then usurp peoples rights.

Ron

 

Some here have asked why if the covid vaccines are so good, why are booster shots needed. Seems like they don't really know much about vaccines.

Say the DTaP vaccine -

• Birth through 6 years: DTaP at 2, 3, and 6 months, again at 15-18 months, and between 4 and 6 years. Total of 5 doses.
• 7 through 10 years: If not fully vaccinated against pertussis, should receive a single dose of Tdap OR, in some cases, should be vaccinated according to the catch-up schedule with Tdap as the preferred first dose.
• 11 through 18 years: Tdap as a single dose preferably between 11 and 12 years. If not fully vaccinated, check catch-up schedule. Adolescents 13–18 who missed getting Tdap at 11–12, administer at soonest opportunity

From - https://www.cvs.com/immunizations/tdap-dtap, But all of the sites say the same thing.

Then you have tetanus, where you should get one every 5 years if you have a cut that gets stitches at a hospital.

 

 

That brings up something else I read. Those who seem to think "natural immunity" after having covid are better than the immunity with the vaccines are wrong about it. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...rotect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity

 

That brings up something else I read. Those who seem to think "natural immunity" after having covid are better than the immunity with the vaccines are wrong about it. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...rotect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity

Excellent article. Thanks for sharing.

 

That brings up something else I read. Those who seem to think "natural immunity" after having covid are better than the immunity with the vaccines are wrong about it. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...rotect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity

What's better? The study and all studies must be seen in its limitations and datasets.

According to the study authors, “These findings suggest that among hospitalized adults with COVID-19-like illness whose previous infection or vaccination occurred 90–179 days earlier, vaccine-induced immunity was more protective than infection-induced immunity against laboratory-confirmed COVID-19.”

The short period antibody generation is response is very specific and robust to the coronavirus the vaccine was created to combat but the bodies natural response is not so directed. It creates a wider antibody/immune response that a later infection can fineitune to be specific to the variant..

The study authors refer to a recent Israeli study that reported conflicting results. The Israeli study found that “natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease, and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 [than] the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity.”

The VISION researchers say that this variation may be related to differences in the methods of the two studies and restrictions on the timing of vaccinations.

The study concludes with a call to action: “All eligible persons should be vaccinated against COVID-19 as soon as possible, including unvaccinated [people who have previously had] SARS-CoV-2.”

Exactly. With previous infection the vaccine will fine-tune the natural immunity and increase the short-term antibody response.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/01/what-works-better-vaccines-or-natural-immunity/

CDC finds immunity from vaccines is more consistent than from infection, but both last at least six months

 

I find the article interesting but not compelling. There are loose ends dangling.

 

I am listening to all the medical experts so I will get my Covid-19 Pfizer booster shot in 4 or 5 days.
I do not believe what the antivaxers say that I will become radio-active, magnetic and poisoned.

 

I do not believe what the antivaxers say that I will become radio-active, magnetic and poisoned.

nah ... they're just jealous because they know you might turn into an X-men ...

 

I dream that I can fly like a bird. Will the vaccine cause me to crash into a tree?

 

A little less biased...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02795-x

"Studies" are released to convince the public to drive the vaccination up. "Messaging" is crafted to convince the public that vaccines are better for immunity. Etc etc.

There is very little robust or established science in this.

If you think to basic biology, how can vaccine that only presents part of a virus to your immune system create a more lasting immune response than a full infection?

 

A little less biased...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02795-x

"Studies" are released to convince the public to drive the vaccination up. "Messaging" is crafted to convince the public that vaccines are better for immunity. Etc etc.

There is very little robust or established science in this.

If you think to basic biology, how can vaccine that only presents part of a virus to your immune system create a more lasting immune response than a full infection?

Your response depends on the person and the type of exposure. The vaccines provide a base-level of protection that's more consistent than natural immunity.

There are people with preexisting CV-19 immunity of a type that current vaccines don't quickly produce in isolation.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...-creation-of-a-pan-coronaviruses-vaccine.aspx

In a subset of healthcare workers, who showed no sign of SARS-CoV-2 infection (repeatedly testing negative by PCR and antibody tests) there was, however, an increase in T cells.

Rather than having avoided infection completely, a subset of healthcare workers appear to have experienced a transient low-level (abortive) infection, not detectable by routine tests, but which generated T cells specific to SARS-CoV-2; compatible with this, the same individuals also had a low-level increase in another blood marker of viral infection.

We have choices and paths to take.

With prior infection there is a reduced risk of reinfection sickness and death. Without prior infection use vaccination and boosters to tune our virus response for lower risk from an initial infection. With prior infection we can get vaccination as a booster to fine-tune our response for likely even lower risk. We can be exposed without prior infection or vaccination with a much higher risk of transmission and health effects.

 

I dream that I can fly like a bird. Will the vaccine cause me to crash into a tree?

No but reports claim you will be able to fly higher.

Ron

 

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/11/17/reynolds-middle-school-to-move-to-distance-learning/
Citing social struggles, not COVID, Reynolds Middle School to move to distance learning

Diaz said time out of school has had an impact on student and staff well-being.

“The shifts in learning methods and isolation caused by COVID-19 closures and quarantines have taken a toll on the well-being of our students and staff,” Diaz said.

“We are finding that some students are struggling with the socialization skills necessary for in-person learning, which is causing disruption in school for other students,” Diaz said.

District spokesperson Steve Padilla said the decision came out of a discussion between the union representing teachers and the superintendent, as behavior issues and disruptions that started at the beginning of the school year have continued.

It was a huge mistake to keep schools closed.

Closing schools because of fallout from closed schools? That'll do it. They closed the schools because of the pandemic and now that closure is the cause for school fights and disruptions so the people in charge decide that more time away from the school room is the solution.

That a lame excuse for not doing your job.

 

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/11/17/reynolds-middle-school-to-move-to-distance-learning/
Citing social struggles, not COVID, Reynolds Middle School to move to distance learning


It was a huge mistake to keep schools closed.

Closing schools because of fallout from closed schools? That'll do it. They closed the schools because of the pandemic and now that closure is the cause for school fights and disruptions so the people in charge decide that more time away from the school room is the solution.

That a lame excuse for not doing your job.

I agree ... I consider the importance of children-level schooling no to be academic, but rather a place where kids learn team work and social skills, and make friends and deal with personal conflict... and all of that is impossible to learn if it's not a first hand experience.

 

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/11/17/reynolds-middle-school-to-move-to-distance-learning/
Citing social struggles, not COVID, Reynolds Middle School to move to distance learning


It was a huge mistake to keep schools closed.

Closing schools because of fallout from closed schools? That'll do it. They closed the schools because of the pandemic and now that closure is the cause for school fights and disruptions so the people in charge decide that more time away from the school room is the solution.

That a lame excuse for not doing your job.

I agree ... I consider the importance of children-level schooling no to be academic, but rather a place where kids learn team work and social skills, and make friends and deal with personal conflict... and all of that is impossible to learn if it's not a first hand experience.

Absolutely and right on target. The whole concept of this remote learning is starting to prove to be an epic failure. Not just for the knowledge base but also as mentioned the development of social skills. One of my grandsons is 7 years old and even he has no problem grasping the concept of social distancing.

“We are finding that some students are struggling with the socialization skills necessary for in-person learning, which is causing disruption in school for other students,” Diaz said.

Sounds more like a discipline problem or a failure to instill self discipline habits in the students. Absolutely a lame excuse and the expected results of closing the schools in the first place. Stress plays a role in daily life, it did so long before the pandemic so teachers and students need to get over themselves and teachers start doing their jobs.

Ron