https://www.victoriabuzz.com/2021/11/age-biggest-risk-factor-for-covid-19-dr-bonnie-henry/

 

How could it have been stopped a year ago?

8-weeks of taking it seriously. Way more seriously than in the half-assed "shutdown" than we did in March 2020. No vaccine needed - just like the shutdowns during Ebola outbreaks in Africa.

 

8-weeks of taking it seriously. Way more seriously than in the half-assed "shutdown" than we did in March 2020. No vaccine needed - just like the shutdowns during Ebola outbreaks in Africa.

World wide coordinated shut down? Would be interesting to see that happen. By the time COVID was identified as an outbreak, it was in circulation world wide already. This is not Ebola.

 

The numbers from BC are the same everywhere:
1) 88% of people in hospital critical care are unvaccinated and are clogging the care for usual medical problems with normal people.
2) Unvaccinated people are 50 times more likely to go to hospital, further clogging it, because they have severe illness from the virus.
3) Unvaccinated people are 10 times more likely to test positive (guess why?).
4) Unvaccinated people are 46 times more likely to die from the virus.

 

The numbers from BC are the same everywhere:
1) 88% of people in hospital critical care are unvaccinated and are clogging the care for usual medical problems with normal people.
2) Unvaccinated people are 50 times more likely to go to hospital, further clogging it, because they have severe illness from the virus.
3) Unvaccinated people are 10 times more likely to test positive (guess why?).
4) Unvaccinated people are 46 times more likely to die from the virus.

Why do you bring facts to a disinformation fight? (paraphrasing, don't bring a knife to a gun fight)

 

Hi salts,
Sure, you will be pleased to hear this new development, good news.
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https://www.who.int/news/item/14-02...nse-vaccine-in-milestone-for-ebola-prevention

 

Hi salts,
Sure, you will be pleased to hear this new development, good news.
E
https://www.who.int/news/item/14-02...nse-vaccine-in-milestone-for-ebola-prevention

I was wondering if those people fear that Ebola vaccine is full of microchips and refusing to take it.

 

As expected the US federal mandate is hitting some headwinds.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...biden-s-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAQFml2?li=BBnbcA1

In a blistering 22-page opinion, the Fifth US Circuit Court of Appeals said that the vaccine mandate issued by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) is "fatally flawed" and both "overinclusive" and "underinclusive."

"Indeed, the Mandate's strained prescriptions combine to make it the rare government pronouncement that is both overinclusive (applying to employers and employees in virtually all industries and workplaces in America, with little attempt to account for the obvious differences between the risks facing, say, a security guard on a lonely night shift, and a meatpacker working shoulder to shoulder in a cramped warehouse) and underinclusive (purporting to save employees with 99 or more coworkers from a 'grave danger' in the workplace, while making no attempt to shield employees with 98 or fewer coworkers from the very same threat)," the court wrote.

 

The numbers from BC are the same everywhere:
1) 88% of people in hospital critical care are unvaccinated and are clogging the care for usual medical problems with normal people.
2) Unvaccinated people are 50 times more likely to go to hospital, further clogging it, because they have severe illness from the virus.
3) Unvaccinated people are 10 times more likely to test positive (guess why?).
4) Unvaccinated people are 46 times more likely to die from the virus.

This is not correct information for BC.

I am not interested in fixing it for you or anyone else.

As was stated already, i also thought that of all places, an actual discussion about biases, data and statistics could be had here. Boy was I wrong.

 

As expected the US federal mandate is hitting some headwinds.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...biden-s-vaccine-mandate/ar-AAQFml2?li=BBnbcA1

Very same could be said for all the mandates I have seen here locally...

Fast food chains are free to operate without having to check for "vaccine passport" while a local restaurant has to comply with multiple restrictions. I wonder who is on the verge of financial collapse?

 

This is not correct information for BC.

It is what the BC chief Medical officer Dr. Henry says in her report.
I was raised in BC and left to go to Ontario when the hippies and homeless people in Ontario went to BC, so I know why there are more antivaxers in BC than in Ontario and why the bad numbers in BC are so high.
Here is a comparison of the statement from BC and from me (they are the same):

 

It is what the BC chief Medical officer Dr. Henry says in her report.
I was raised in BC and left to go to Ontario when the hippies and homeless people in Ontario went to BC, so I know why there are more antivaxers in BC than in Ontario and why the bad numbers in BC are so high.
Here is a comparison of the statement from BC and from me (they are the same):

Because they are afraid of needles!?

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...ills-covid-19-patients-unvaccinated-by-choice

Singapore's government has been covering the medical bills of COVID-19 patients throughout the pandemic. But it says unvaccinated people will soon be on their own.

Those who are "unvaccinated by choice" will have to start paying for their own COVID-19 treatment starting Dec. 8, the Ministry of Health announced on Monday, citing the strain they are putting on the nation's health care system.

"Currently, unvaccinated persons make up a sizeable majority of those who require intensive inpatient care, and disproportionately contribute to the strain on our healthcare resources," it said in a statement.

 

On a brighter COVID note related to consumer goods shortages. Yesterday I did a supermarket trip. The evening news has been stressing shortages on everything from Thanksgiving supplies to Christmas shopping or Holiday Shopping if that trips your trigger. With my wife generated list into the supermarket I went. Now for me going into a supermarket is much like going into a bakery or really good Italian delicatessen, I really should have adult supervision. There is the list and then there is my idea of if it looks good, buy it. While we had no need for meats as we buy in quantity from a local farm the meat section was well stocked. Everything was well stocked. No shortages on anything I could find. There was everything in abundance here in the suburbs of Cleveland, Ohio. So while I can't speak for other areas my area is doing just fine, albeit with inflation but no shortages. Pretty sure I have a year supply of paper towels and toilet paper in the garage and the pantry is in an overflow mode. I figure on canned goods and dry goods may as well store stuff away now.

My concern here is the media promoting shortages and having people buy, buy and then buy more. Pretty sure if I drag home as much as one more can of Bushe's Baked Beans Kathy (wife) will take my life. Anyway, for the most part I am not seeing a shortage of much of anything. I am seeing inflation so may as well buy while buying is good because a week from now everything will cost more. I went to Lowe's Home Improvement store this morning looking for some recessed LED ceiling lights. Building materials are definitely showing inflation but lumber looks to be coming down. The original stud grade 2*4 which was $3.00 went as high as $9.00 and is now down to about $6.00 to $7.00. We put up a large garage just a few years before COVID and today I would not have even considered it. However, the supply of materials showed no shortage.

Overall in my area I am not seeing any shortages of consumer goods. Not sure how the evening news is finding what I can't seem to find? Anyone else experiencing COVID shortages and if so what commodities?

Ron

 

Much different here, the paper isle is almost empty. Gatorade bottles almost gone and other seemingly random shortages. Plus, what they do have has probably gone up 20% in the last 2 years. Even Costco and Sam's club out of TP in this Savannah to Jacksonville area.

 

Much different here, the paper isle is almost empty. Gatorade bottles almost gone and other seemingly random shortages. Plus, what they do have has probably gone up 20% in the last 2 years. Even Costco and Sam's club out of TP in this Savannah to Jacksonville area.

See that's exactly what I am getting at. Paper good and items like paper towels and toilet paper are in abundance up here. The weather of course sucks but that is to be expected. My wife has been even getting stuff using Amazon Prime including toilet paper and paper towels. This works out well since I hate getting large bulky stuff at the super market. Paper commodities suck because when I buy at the super market toilet paper and paper towels take up my cart. Toss in a 12 pack and your full. All that bulky stuff I like Amazon. Order and in a few days just drag it into the house. They even cost less than Sam's club up here.

Anyway, my take is many of the shortages of different items seem to vary with geographical area. I also view Gatorade as a food group.

Ron

 

Not sure how the evening news is finding what I can't seem to find? Anyone else experiencing COVID shortages and if so what commodities?

Nobody will watch a reporter strolling well-stocked aisles and calm shoppers doing their weekly shopping..

In Conroe, North Houston, you can tell that there are some strains on the supply line as some shelves are not stocked super deep but the stores (Costco, HEB, Kroger et. al.) have been doing a good job managing things. Pretty much everything we've gone after is available in some form. They have put limits on the panic items and that has kept stocks at an acceptable level. During the first COVID panic last year, the CEOs of HEB and Kroger grocery stores did the local talk shows telling the steps they were taking to ensure sufficient stocks in their stores of most items. HEB (based in San Antonio) is a standout. They run their own logistics planning and have on-staff medical advisors and economists. On the shows, they laid out the challenges facing them in getting stocks and also what they had been doing in pre-planning and staging for such events. The message was reassuring and like they did after Harvey, they put their preset plans in motion and we all got through it OK. Good show.

 

My wife has been even getting stuff using Amazon Prime including toilet paper

Went to Costco a few weeks ago when I had to go to Mayo in Jax. They were out of TP so when I got home, I checked Amazon. I found some at a decent price, I thought! Then noticed it wasn't from the Amazon warehouse but from a vendor selling through Amazon and once you added their shipping charge it was horrendously priced! Amazon may have had some "industrial/commercial/deli wrap" TP but no quality TP then. Raising 4 kids we always bought "bulk" and still do for TP, paper towels, napkins, and "Kleenex" tissues.

 

https://nationalpost.com/health/why-it-can-be-hard-to-prove-a-vaccine-caused-a-bad-outcome

But reports aren’t proof of causation. The Public Health Agency of Canada conducts medical reviews “to determine the likelihood that a vaccine was associated with an adverse event,” the agency said in an email. Primary medical reviewers flag cases that require a second review, and an expert level assessment is conducted via a newly established Advisory Committee on Causality Assessment on “select cases.”


As of Oct. 29 , a total of 208 reports of death following receipt of a COVID-19 vaccine had been reported through the Canadian Adverse Events Following Immunization Surveillance System, or CAEFISS, and Health Canada’s Canada Vigilance Program. Of those, 79 deaths were deemed unlikely linked to a COVID vaccine, 82 deaths lacked sufficient information to make an assessment and 47 were still under investigation. Seven of those deaths involved the blood clotting complication.

The median age of the 208 reports with an outcome of death was 74 (range 12 to 102), with 61 per cent more than 70 years of age. The median time from vaccination to death was eight days. “Out of the reports that contain sufficient information, at least 85 per cent have an underlying medical condition documented,” the agency said.
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What about in the U.S. and the U.K.?

In the U.S. more than 423 million doses of COVID vaccines were given from December 2020 through to Nov. 1, 2021. During that time, the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) received 9,367 reports of death, or 0.0022 per cent of all doses administered. Healthcare providers in the U.S. are required to report any death after COVID-vaccination to VAERS, “even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.” But anyone can file a report to VAERS, some of which can be anecdotal or based on second-hand information. U.S. health officials have said the only “plausible” causal link between COVID-19 vaccines and deaths so far is with the rare blood clots.

Under the British government’s Yellow Card scheme the public can report suspected side effects from vaccines. According to the most recent weekly summary, 1,739 reports have been submitted of people who died shortly after receipt of a COVID vaccine, the majority of them elderly people or people with heart, kidney or other chronic health problems. “Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths,” according to the summary. More than 107 million doses of COVID vaccines have been administered in the U.K.

 

Hi,
Austrian non vax lockdown measures.
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corrected typo!