The CDC report says that there have been a few rare deaths in people who have had the Covid-19 vaccine, "0.0022%". The deaths are reported for anybody who was vaccinated and "do not necessarily mean that the vaccine caused the health problem". Some or most of the deaths were caused by other medical problems.

 

The Medical Officer of Health in my area who is in charge of hospitals and vaccinations says that almost all hospitalized adult cases are with unvaccinated people.
The Officer also says that almost all cases that occur in vaccinated people have minor symptoms and do not need hospital treatment.
The Officer also says that most unvaccinated cases with little kids also have minor symptoms and do not need hospital treatment.

It is obvious that unvaccinated adult cases are clogging the hospitals and are very ill people. Why??

 

"So evidently younger and healthier people must risk adverse effects from X in order to protect the vulnerable."

Yes, that's normally called a social contract that the vast majority of us have accepted as the cost of being civilized.

There is a fine line between protecting women and children when in the line of fire and exposing your future generations to an as of yet unknown risk caused by synthetic agents never tested before.

This social contract is an interesting thing. Long time ago a vaccine for rotavirus was worked on. Rotashield. It was not approved for US market by FDA because of an issue. This resulted in it not being approved by the WHO.

Rotavirus causes many deaths of infants in 3rd world countries. Another vaccine did not get approved until 2006. Rotavirus still kills many babies.

This is the politics of vaccination... And of the "social contract"

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/rotavirus

 

There is a fine line between protecting women and children when in the line of fire and exposing your future generations to an as of yet unknown risk caused by synthetic agents never tested before.

This social contract is an interesting thing. Long time ago a vaccine for rotavirus was worked on. Rotashield. It was not approved for US market by FDA because of an issue. This resulted in it not being approved by the WHO.

Rotavirus causes many deaths of infants in 3rd world countries. Another vaccine did not get approved until 2006. Rotavirus still kills many babies.

This is the politics of vaccination... And of the "social contract"

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/rotavirus

True, I didn't say it was risk free or even 'fair', only that it exists as a protection for the general society not the protection of a individual. Humans are usually highly motivated by short-term risk assessments so the choice of known short-term CV-19 risk over possible long-term vaccination risk is completely logical and expected.

 

The Medical Officer of Health in my area who is in charge of hospitals and vaccinations says that almost all hospitalized adult cases are with unvaccinated people.
The Officer also says that almost all cases that occur in vaccinated people have minor symptoms and do not need hospital treatment.
The Officer also says that most unvaccinated cases with little kids also have minor symptoms and do not need hospital treatment.

It is obvious that unvaccinated adult cases are clogging the hospitals and are very ill people. Why??

It appears to be a little different here.
http://globalnews.ca/news/8349902/bc-covid-19-update-november-4/

 

“It is people around our seniors and elderly that need to be protected.” Which means vaccinated! And I will thank you for doing so to protect us!

 

It appears to be a little different here.
http://globalnews.ca/news/8349902/bc-covid-19-update-november-4/

A majority of those dying are 80 years of age and older, the province said. Of the vaccinated, 47 of the 82 deaths in October are in that age group. Among the unvaccinated group, 23 of the 89 deaths were 80-plus.

Nearly half of the vaccinated people hospitalized in October with COVID-19 in the 80-plus age range died from the virus.

Unfortunately a mainly normal statistic for that age group. Vaccination is not a youth serum.

 

With my compromised immune system, I had no reaction effects from my first two inoculations. While my wife and son were moaning and groaning bellyaching over theirs. But I sure felt the aftereffects of that third booster shot!

 

Many deaths in Long-Term-Care homes are natural due to many of the medical problems of old age.
Some of the deaths are because many Long-Term-Care homes are privately owned and PROFIT (but with poor or no care) is the most important thing to the owners.

 

https://apnews.com/article/coronavi...ublic-health-f2d9ccb4092fd4651d055dbf7083f259

The contagious delta variant is driving up COVID-19 hospitalizations in the Mountain West and fueling disruptive outbreaks in the North, a worrisome sign of what could be ahead this winter in the U.S.

While trends are improving in Florida, Texas and other Southern states that bore the worst of the summer surge, it’s clear that delta isn’t done with the United States. COVID-19 is moving north and west for the winter as people head indoors, close their windows and breathe stagnant air.

“We’re going to see a lot of outbreaks in unvaccinated people that will result in serious illness, and it will be tragic,” said Dr. Donald Milton of the University of Maryland School of Public Health.

In recent days, a Vermont college suspended social gatherings after a spike in cases tied to Halloween parties. Boston officials shut down an elementary school to control an outbreak. Hospitals in New Mexico and Colorado are overwhelmed.

In Michigan, the three-county metro Detroit area is again becoming a hot spot for transmissions, with one hospital system reporting nearly 400 COVID-19 patients. Mask-wearing in Michigan has declined to about 25% of people, according to a combination of surveys tracked by an influential modeling group at the University of Washington.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavi...da-education-6cc8a4f78e460ee867ffe5628ddc5d76

The last three school districts in Florida that required at least some students to wear masks are dropping their mandates for student facial coverings.

 

according to health Canada info, in Canada some 58M doses are distributed. 22k of recipients had adverse reaction, about 5500 got a serious reaction and more than 200 died.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/

according to report in Britain, since vaccination of children was started, number of deaths increased by 83% in boys and 33% in girls compared to 5-year average, but the medical experts stated that they are unsure if this can be attributed to vaccine.

in USA, VEARS data is unreliable as anyone is able to report anything without substantiation. some were declaring that vaccine gave them super powers or turned them into a Hulk.

 

in USA, VEARS data is unreliable as anyone is able to report anything without substantiation. some were declaring that vaccine gave them super powers or turned them into a Hulk.

Now that you mention it I have noticed I seem to attract ferrous metal and I have noticed black unmarked helicopters hovering over my house. The dogs told me about the black helicopters over dinner one evening.

Ron

 

LOL, feel free to submit it to VAERS
https://vaers.hhs.gov/

 

nobody disputes that vaccine makes effects of Covid much less severe, but there is still little evidence that vaccination curbs the spread of the virus. and while risks of complications are low and adverse effects only affect some people, it is not fair to deny that chance of adverse reaction or even death exits. and this is why those not willing to take part in mandated vaccinations have my support. i am simply open to hear both sides.

this is how one family explained their reasoning about mandates and those 5000+ adverse cases:

many have fear of needles they cannot control, so to them any injection is a terror. those that cannot understand that should simply be asked to allow stranger to inject them with some clear liquid and they will probably begin to understand. similarly, some people have fear of flying even though air travel is the safest way to get around. Canada population is not large. think of a passenger jet with 250people on board. that is some 20 passenger jets crashing in Canada in less than a year or about 2 every month since vaccination started. if someone is not willing to take the jab, try convincing those with fear of flying how crashing 2 planes a month is insignificant for Canada. the USA has 10x the population of Canada, so crash-landing 20 planes a month should be newsworthy but everyone is saying don't worry, vaccine is safe. "yes couple of planes may crash and you may be on one of them but don't worry. even if it happens to one you are on, 90% of those on board will still survive and just have broken bodies or lifelong injuries."

 

according to health Canada info, in Canada some 58M doses are distributed. 22k of recipients had adverse reaction, about 5500 got a serious reaction and more than 200 died.

My calculation shows that 0.0000034 died of the total of people who were vaccinated. But they do not say what killed them. They were vaccinated and a few of them died.
How many thousands of unvaccinated people died from Covid-19 stopping their breathing??

The waiting time after being vaccinated is to quickly stop the adverse reaction (allergy) in the very few people who have an adverse reaction.

 

but there is still little evidence that vaccination curbs the spread of the virus.

What planet are you on? Only infected people transmit the virus, only a small fraction of vaccinated people ever get infected. Those that do, are noteworthy and make it to the news. Just because you see a few vaccinated people on the news doesn't mean everyone who is vaccinated is still getting infected. And, vaccinated people who do get sick are more likely to quarrentine so I doubt transmission from vaccinated people is a major contributor to the lingering pandemic.

The good news: each day, there are about 1000 fewer Americans who can doubt the effectiveness of the Covid vaccines.

 

Only infected people transmit the virus

and being vaccinated does not stop you from being infected or passing the virus to others

And, vaccinated people who do get sick are more likely to quarrentine so I doubt transmission from vaccinated people is a major contributor to the lingeri

then what is the point for mandates? people that got the vaccine are protected, aren't they? and why do you think rest of the population is unwilling to get the shot?

 

and being vaccinated does not stop you from being infected or passing the virus to others

It certainly has been stopping 99% of covid cases in vaccinated people. Only about 1% of vaccinated people get a breakthrough case - total (symptomatic + asymptomatic).

then what is the point for mandates? people that got the vaccine are protected, aren't they?

Because a successful nation with a growing economy and bright futures doesn't happen with a shrinking population.

 

The real reason why the "official" Covid death figures simply can't be trusted.

Same goes for here in the US and pretty much everywhere else.

 

exactly, hospitals are fudging reports. this is how there was 0 cases of deaths from pneumonia, flue etc. every death was Covid. if the Astroworld tragedy occurred year earlier, it would be chalked down as 8 Covid deaths.
then when vaccination started, and there are no cases as a result of Vaccine, despite some significant correlation like the 83% more deaths in boys. such results are "not explained" or "inconclusive". but let it show up on some government funded report or corrupt media and everyone falls for it.

fake the numbers and you can say whatever you want... GIGO principle