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cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I just took my 87 year old mom to get vaccinated this last Sunday. They shot her the Pfizer vac, which IMHO is the one I trust the most. I'm relieved... but not as much as I know I'll be after she gets her second dose and another two weeks have passed.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Just as I see it, or have been anyway. To immunize a herd you need to find a way to collect them by motivation, nothing better than fear motivation to collect a herd. It’s not wrong (The networks love it) in this case might be everything right, for some folks its the only way to get back to work. I’m ok with it, as long as we get more injections in the arms of people willing to do it, I benefit as long as they don’t become A symptomatic then transmit it to me.

kv
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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My motivation for getting vaccinated is that I want to stay alive since so many old people like me have been killed by the virus.
Now even younger party people are succumbing to the new variants of the virus.
As to be expected as the older people virus vectors are reduced from vaccination and natural infection. The younger party people have always been a major vector during the pandemic but the overall risk of death from COVID-19 does remain fairly small below 30 years old so even a doubling of the rate in the younger set will still be a low number compared to those 50 and older..

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...s-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html

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xox

Joined Sep 8, 2017
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Reverse Engineering the source code of the BioNTech/Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

The idea of a vaccine is to teach our immune system how to fight a pathogen, without us actually getting ill. Historically this has been done by injecting a weakened or incapacitated (attenuated) virus, plus an ‘adjuvant’ to scare our immune system into action. This was a decidedly analogue technique involving billions of eggs (or insects). It also required a lot of luck and loads of time. Sometimes a different (unrelated) virus was also used.


An mRNA vaccine achieves the same thing (‘educate our immune system’) but in a laser like way. And I mean this in both senses - very narrow but also very powerful.


So here is how it works. The injection contains volatile genetic material that describes the famous SARS-CoV-2 ‘Spike’ protein. Through clever chemical means, the vaccine manages to get this genetic material into some of our cells.


These then dutifully start producing SARS-CoV-2 Spike proteins in large enough quantities that our immune system springs into action. Confronted with Spike proteins, and (importantly) tell-tale signs that cells have been taken over, our immune system develops a powerful response against multiple aspects of the Spike protein AND the production process.


And this is what gets us to the 95% efficient vaccine.
 
I got the Pfizer vaccine 5 days ago and I feel fine. I am old (75) with common for my age high frequency hearing loss so I have hearing aids that makes my hearing sound normal I also have a little tinnitus (a constant high frequencies noise) that is stronger after having the vaccine. It is a rare side effect.
 

xox

Joined Sep 8, 2017
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I got the Pfizer vaccine 5 days ago and I feel fine. I am old (75) with common for my age high frequency hearing loss so I have hearing aids that makes my hearing sound normal I also have a little tinnitus (a constant high frequencies noise) that is stronger after having the vaccine. It is a rare side effect.
A friend of mine in her late sixties just got hers a couple of days ago. She mentioned catching the chills and a bit of a fever, but it only lasted overnight. I saw her the very next day actually and she looked just fine.

I admit I was a little worried at first from some of the things I had heard about a while back WRT serious reactions, but thankfully those kind of reports don't seem to be pouring in anymore. Besides that, the overall efficacy of the vaccines seems to have improved considerably as well, with an average coverage of up to 93% for a single shot.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Wife and I got our first dose of the Pfizer about a week ago. Nothing, no reaction at all for either of us. The second dose is scheduled for 07 April. Not bad either, about a 15 min ride up the road. Overall it went well.

Ron
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Life here in Ohio, USA goes on. This is sort of interesting and I can now include with I am living in a world I don't understand. So OK, after first responders, hospital workers, nurses, doctors and any special groups they open vaccinations to those 80 and older. OK, I get it. Then before even 20% of them are vaccinated they open the field to those 60 and older. Then they continue to open the field making it more and more difficult to get appointments. I believe our governor is a hapless idiot and trying to meet the expectations of the Federal Government. Last I heard it was 16 and over as of a week ago. During the past week I guess COVID cases are up 10%. The current metric looks like this. Currently 28.42% of the population has at least started the process. Our governor who will likely be a one term governor just had a veto of his over ruled by the state congress. This same guy managed a single term in the US Senate.

Just heard from our 38 year old daughter who managed to luck out with the single dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine. The luck of the draw I guess. :)

Ron
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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My Pfizer first dose is next week, finally.
Good deal. Our second Pfizer dose is the 7th of April. We actually just got lucky making the appointment. We pre-registered online with University Hospital network here in Cleveland. Got an email within a day or two and when my wife called she wasn't even on hold. Nice woman set things up. Our appointment was only an hour behind schedule and everything went real well. Neither of us had any side effect at all.

Ron
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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Nothing beats the response from my province of BC. Our premier came out few days ago and in a public speech publically blamed 20-30 year olds for increases in cases. Evidence provided? No. Are cases going up everywhere? Yes.

It gets better. Province will be delaying second shot to 4 months to "maximize" use of the vaccines that they have.

And even better - 1 week ago province loosened some restrictions. Yesterday they shot down restaurants sighting increases in cases.

In addition, Canada (short on vaccines) is rejecting Astra Zeneca because of blood clotting issue.

If anyone had any "trust" left, I am sure it is gone by now. I have not been able to understand what data they are basing their decisions on.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/545566-covid-19s-fourth-wave-is-hitting-the-us-hard

big spikes in New York and especially New York City, Michigan, New Jersey, Connecticut and Pennsylvania.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-h...-new-covid-cases-it-variants-or-just-our-turn

  • Michigan let its guard down after Whitmer eased restrictions beginning Feb. 1 and schools reopened.
  • Coronavirus variants stormed into the state.
  • It’s Michigan’s time. Low overall infection rates for most of the pandemic left residents without natural immunity and created an opportunity for a resurgence.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.

Charles Dickens
 
It seems to be the warm salt water in the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans and in the Gulf Of Mexico that are causing them to be the super-spreaders for the virus among young people on the USA.
I am lucky that Lake Ontario near me in Canada has fresh water and is almost freezing.

The variants are here because the governments did not prevent travellers from bringing the variants here.
 
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