Facts don't care if you believe them or not.

I'm never a big fan of conspiracy theories.

 

https://www.vox.com/22298751/long-term-side-effects-covid-19-hauler-symptoms

The dominant narrative about long Covid has been that it’s a uniquely perplexing feature of Covid-19. Reports of “Covid brain fog” or “Covid dementia,” for example, suggest a disturbing and extraordinary ability of the coronavirus to destroy the lives of survivors. Even a year later, some patients are still struggling to return to work or have their illness recognized, let alone access disability benefits.


While there’s no doubt long Covid is a real condition worthy of diagnosis and treatment, “this isn’t unique to Covid,” Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at the Yale School of Medicine, said. Covid-19 appears to be one of many infections, from Ebola to strep throat, that can give rise to stubbornly persistent symptoms in an unlucky subset of patients. “If Covid didn’t cause chronic symptoms to occur in some people,” PolyBio Research Foundation microbiologist Amy Proal told Vox, “it would be the only virus that didn’t do that.”

 

I know more than I've ever wanted to about brain fog, it is a daily battle for me.

 

It may be fun to dismiss "conspiracy theories" as somehow unworthy. The media have come to label anything they don't like as a conspiracy theory embraced only by fools, luddites and miscreants. You know, those same people that don't embrace the "right" conspiracy theory being peddled.

But do you really think there has been NO coordinated efforts by unseen bureaucrats on all sides to spin the virus story to their benefit? That's frankly incredulous. We have observed nothing BUT conspiracy theories. I don't believe anything we've been told by any government. They are a disqualified source on virtually all matters.

A fundamental problem is that the answers to most of the interesting questions are not yet known. Governments seem to be incapable of flatly admitting "we don't know", so they make shit up to pacify their populations. If they can use a crisis to advance an agenda, they leap on the chance.

When it comes to the history of the virus entering the human population, we may never know any more than we do today. The truth is actively being hidden and covered up and even if it's eventually uncovered, it may be hard to tell that it's not just another story. Other questions – such as mask effectiveness, the damage done by lockdowns, the interaction with genetics and general health factors – may one day be answered. Until that day comes, we have only conspiracy theories.

 

Governments seem to be incapable of flatly admitting "we don't know"

That's because of human nature... people in general would rather hear a quack politician, actor or some sort of entertainer giving them far fetched speculation that they themselves don't understand, than pay attention to a sincere and professional scientist that tells them that we do not yet have the technology nor the knowledge to explain some things... but that they're working on it.

 

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But do you really think there has been NO coordinated efforts by unseen bureaucrats on all sides to spin the virus story to their benefit? That's frankly incredulous. We have observed nothing BUT conspiracy theories. I don't believe anything we've been told by any government. They are a disqualified source on virtually all matters.
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That's a classic straw-man because I and literally nobody is saying there have been "NO coordinated efforts by unseen bureaucrats on all sides to spin the virus story to their benefit". In fact there are are scores of stories and links (some that I have published on this site, in this thread) with plenty of real evidence not from government sources about how unseen bureaucrats, on all sides, are spinning the virus story to their benefit. It would be frankly incredulous if that was my point but it sure in hell is not.

What we specifically don't have is, evidence of a pandemic related Chinese lab leak, a pandemic related US lab leak, a pandemic related intentional release by any nation on this planet and a lot of evidence that this class of virus has jumped by totally natural means to the human population before from the animal pool of these types of virus in SE Asia, southern China and other parts of the world.

 

I'm just glad to see places opening up again. Plus things really seem to have cleared up quite a bit, infectionwise. It is very tragic to see that some people are still dying from it. But the numbers are way down. We can be grateful for that at least.

 

I'm just glad to see places opening up again. Plus things really seem to have cleared up quite a bit, infectionwise. It is very tragic to see that some people are still dying from it. But the numbers are way down. We can be grateful for that at least.

Yes... let's hope the population doesn't relax too much and lower their guard too soon before an important percentage is vaccinated so that things can really go back to normal.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...-southwest-china-as-likely-source-of-pandemic

A member of the World Health Organization investigative team says wildlife farms in southern China are the most likely source of the COVID-19 pandemic.

China shut down those wildlife farms in February 2020, says Peter Daszak, a disease ecologist with EcoHealth Alliance and a member of the WHO delegation that traveled to China this year. During that trip, Daszak says, the WHO team found new evidence that these wildlife farms were supplying vendors at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan with animals.
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First off, many farms are located in or around a southern province, Yunnan, where virologists found a bat virus that's genetically 96% similar to SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes the disease COVID-19. Second, the farms breed animals that are known to carry coronaviruses, such as civet cats and pangolins.


Finally, during the WHO's mission to China, Daszak said the team found new evidence that these farms were supplying vendors at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, where an early outbreak of COVID-19 occurred.

The market was shut down overnight on Dec. 31, 2019, after it was linked to cases of what was then described as a mysterious pneumonia-like illness.

"There was massive transmission going on at that market for sure," says Linfa Wang, a virologist who studies bat viruses at Duke-NUS Medical School in Singapore. He's also part of the WHO investigative team. Wang says that after the outbreak at the Huanan market, Chinese scientists went there and looked for the virus.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2351989418302312
January 2019

Zoonotic diseases cause millions of deaths every year. Diseases such as Ebola, severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), and avian influenza cause economic losses at the global level and jeopardize diplomatic relations between countries. As wildlife are the source of at least 70% of all emerging diseases and given the on-going concerns associated with wildlife trade as a disease transmission mechanism, we provide a ‘global snapshot’ of the legal trade in live wild animals and take stock of the potential health risks that it poses to global human health. Our analysis showed that 11,569,796 individual live wild animals, representing 1316 different species were exported from 189 different countries between 2012 and 2016. China was the largest exporter of live mammals (with 98,979 animals representing 58.7% of global trade). Nicaragua was the largest exporter of live amphibians (with 122,592 animals representing 53.8% of global trade). South Africa was the largest exporter of live birds (with 889,607 animals representing 39.2% of global trade). Peru was the largest exporter of live reptiles (with 1,675,490 animals representing 18.8% of global trade). Our analysis showed that mostly the USA and other high-income countries, the largest importers, drive the live animal trade. High-income countries and not the countries where wildlife diseases and pathogens are more likely to occur reported almost all of the disease reports to the World Organisation for Animal Health. Based on our findings, we discuss how maximising trade bans; working on human behaviour change and improving regulatory efforts to improve surveillance will decrease the risk of future pandemics, epidemics and outbreaks.

Why did we have a BSL4 facility studying bat coronaviruses that target the ACE2 receptor in China? Because we predicted that bat coronaviruses were crossing over into to humans in China [google.com].

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...-southwest-china-as-likely-source-of-pandemic


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2351989418302312
January 2019


Why did we have a BSL4 facility studying bat coronaviruses that target the ACE2 receptor in China? Because we predicted that bat coronaviruses were crossing over into to humans in China [google.com].

Smoking gun?

 

Smoking gun?

They don't stop conspiracy stories.

 

One possible case, natural mutation occurring in rodents. This could possibly suggest C19 is not engineered but is environmentally conducive for an outbreak.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/3/2/97-0210_article

Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome is a rodent-borne zoonosis first recognized in the United States in 1993. Person-to-person transmission has not been reported; however, in the outbreak of 20 cases reported here, epidemiologic evidence strongly suggests this route of transmission

But, there are plenty of articles saying, why it’s not possible to have transmission person to person, thus down playing the incident that was recorded.


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Edit: A Bat is not a Rodent, so these are not connected in any way I would think.

 

Smoking gun?

Placed conveniently in the hands of a patsy over a year late?

(Don't get me wrong - it sounds like a decent hypothesis. But the CCP has every reason to throw a few peasants under the bus.)

 

Placed conveniently in the hands of a patsy over a year late?

(Don't get me wrong - it sounds like a decent hypothesis. But the CCP has every reason to throw a few peasants under the bus.)

Think on the positive. The pandemic related vaccine research has advanced the technology to develop and produce cures and preventative vaccines to the point that CV-X will likely be a foot-note in medical history.

 

Think on the positive. The pandemic related vaccine research has advanced the technology to develop and produce cures and preventative vaccines to the point that CV-X will likely be a foot-note in medical history.

There's no question that we dodged a bullet on this one. Despite the hysteria in the media, this was about as minor a pandemic as possible. It transmits frighteningly easily but is only lethal to a fraction of the population.

 

There's no question that we dodged a bullet on this one. Despite the hysteria in the media, this was about as minor a pandemic as possible. It transmits frighteningly easily but is only lethal to a fraction of the population.

The low level of deadliness is one of the main reasons this was very unlikely to be engineered as a bioweapon. I, like most Cold War Warriors were vaccinated with lightly tested, unnamed in our shot record, cures to scores of extremely deadly manufactured and cultured pathogens that could kill far in excess of 90% in days.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar... state,Russia, including Moscow and Leningrad.

Ken Alibek, formerly Kanatjan Alibekov, was born in Kauchuk, Kazakhstan, in 1950. He graduated from the Tomsk Medical Institute in 1975. He holds PhDs in microbiology and biotechnology. He joined the Soviet Union’s Biopreparat in 1975 and was deputy chief of the agency from 1988 to 1992, when he defected to the United States.

Biopreparat is “the Soviet state pharmaceutical agency whose primary function was to develop and produce weapons made from the most dangerous viruses, toxins, and bacteria known to man.” It is spread over 40 sites, many in European Russia, including Moscow and Leningrad. Alibek writes: “Over a twenty year period that began, ironically, with Moscow’s endorsement of the Biological Weapons Convention in 1972, the Soviet Union built the largest and most advanced biological warfare establishment in the world.”

Biohazard is Alibek’s frightening exposure of this establishment, which, at its peak in the late 1980s, employed 60 000 people. In 1990 under Mikhail Gorbachev, the apostle of glasnost, the Soviet Union spent nearly $1bn on its covert biological weapons programme. It stockpiled hundreds of tonnes of anthrax, and dozens of tonnes of plague and smallpox near Moscow and other Russian cities for use against the United States and its Western allies. Alibek refers to Biopreparat as “our Manhattan project.”

https://www.nlm.nih.gov/nichsr/esmallpox/biohazard_alibek.pdf

 

Biological weapons have always seemed a bit counterproductive to me.

And I use "bit" loosely.

 

Biological weapons have always seemed a bit counterproductive to me.

And I use "bit" loosely.

War in general is counterproductive.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170926-the-deadly-germ-warfare-island-abandoned-by-the-soviets

This included a particularly nasty strain of anthrax, known to researchers as STI. For starters, it was resistant to an impressive array of antibiotics, including penicillin, rifampin, tetracycline, chloramphenicol, macrolides and lincomycin. But that’s not the only reason you really, really don’t want to be infected by STI.

As if regular anthrax wasn’t bad enough, the scientists decided this natural killer needed a final flourish: toxins which can rupture red blood cells and rot human tissue. Scientists took the genes from a close relative, Bacillus cereus, and added them using the latest scientific techniques.

Anthrax naturally grows in clumps, but these can get caught up in the nostrils and don’t always lead to an infection. So the Soviets liked to grind them down using industrial machinery. The final result is just five micrometres long – at least 30 times smaller than the width of a human hair. “That’s the perfect size to be inhaled,” says Butler.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...ad-of-6-is-safe-for-schools-social-distancing

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country's top infectious diseases official and Biden's chief adviser on COVID-19, was asked about the findings on Sunday.

"When the data shows that there is an ability to be 3 feet, [the CDC] will act accordingly," Fauci told CNN's Jake Tapper. "The CDC is very well aware that data are accumulating making it look more like 3 feet are okay under certain circumstances." The CDC will update its guidance if the data merits it, Fauci said.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...shots-to-young-kids-as-part-of-covid-19-study

Moderna Gives 1st Vaccine Shots To Young Kids As Part Of COVID-19 Study

 

War in general is counterproductive.

With notable exceptions.