Boy, you let good points just fly right over your head.

It is elective surgery that makes hospitals profitable. This keeps them open -- and medical professionals employed -- so they are available for non-elective (i.e. necessary) surgeries.

But since you'd rather have a "work-at-home" economy, perhaps you'd like to hire your own personal surgeon, anesthesiologist, nursing staff, office personnel, janitors, etc. and let them perform your urological surgery in your living room. Of course, you'd have to purchase all the capital equipment and medical supplies that a profitable hospital will already have on hand.

No wonder why "fantasi" is part of your pseudonym. It's the world in which you live.

Joey,

You need to get a sense of humor. The only fantasy I see here is your head trip in attributing all source of fairy tales to my joke.

I was just joking that perhaps I should submit to my insurance company, my laundry bill for due to the delay in elective surgery.

Peeing my pants has what to do with a work at home economy?

 

Maybe not all, but the CDC seem to be indicating that overall deaths are decreasing over the same period last year.

And perhaps that is due to a change in the environment? I don’t know and have no facts to back me up.

 

Peeing my pants has what to do with a work at home economy?

It's better than doing it in the office.

 

It's better than doing it in the office.

 

Work-at-home opportunities should be expanded.

In all seriousness, please understand what you are asking for.

There are many, many critical jobs that simply can not be done from home. Let me list a few:

• Medical Personnel
• Ambulance Drivers
• Firefighters
• Police
• Assembly Line Workers
• Grocers
• Truck Drivers
• Airline Pilots
• Assisted Living Facilities Personnel
• Food Processors
• Power Plant Operators
• Landfill Operators
• Post Office/Shipping Personnel
• Warehouse Personnel

And so on. Each of these are necessary for a functional economy -- and most for our very survival. And they cannot do their jobs at home.

What you are suggesting that each of these potentially sacrifice their (and their families'!) health, well-being, and -- possibly -- life, so that you can have the luxury of not sacrificing yours.

Damn selfish and cowardly. Shame on you.

 

https://medium.com/@ali_razavian/covid-19-from-a-data-scientists-perspective-95bd4e84843b

Why not put the most important part of that page up?
"Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story." from the top of that link.
And from the guy himself, his qualifications to even address this,
Deep Learning Scientist, Repeat Entrepreneur,

 

In all seriousness, please understand what you are asking for.

There are many, many critical jobs that simply can not be done from home. Let me list a few:

• Medical Personnel
• Ambulance Drivers
• Firefighters
• Police
• Assembly Line Workers
• Grocers
• Truck Drivers
• Airline Pilots
• Assisted Living Facilities Personnel
• Food Processors
• Power Plant Operators
• Landfill Operators
• Post Office/Shipping Personnel
• Warehouse Personnel

And so on. Each of these are necessary for a functional economy -- and most for our very survival. And they cannot do their jobs at home.

What you are suggesting that each of these potentially sacrifice their (and their families'!) health, well-being, and -- possibly -- life, so that you can have the luxury of not sacrificing yours.

Damn selfish and cowardly. Shame on you.

Damn, we all need a remedial reading course. I said opportunities need to be “EXPANDED”. Not that ALL jobs should work from home.

I don’t have the reference, but recently a CEO was quoted as experiencing INCREASED productivity in SOME roles while working from home. EXPANDED means SOME more, not ALL.

For SOME jobs, working from home results in corporate savings. Infrastructure costs are less for example.

I’m NOT suggesting anyone sacrifice anything PERMANENTLY. I am suggesting that we ALL sacrifice temporarily for the general health and welfare. That is in the definition of a civilization.

A personal note. Most of the jobs which I held could be done better from home. None were on joey’s list.

 

Sounds like China is still taking action, I recieved an email from a recent Ebay seller that China Post had returned all parcels to be exported until further notice.
Unless this was instigated by Canada Post?
Max.

 

Damn, we all need a remedial reading course. I said opportunities need to be “EXPANDED”. Not that ALL jobs should work from home.

I don’t have the reference, but recently a CEO was quoted as experiencing INCREASED productivity in SOME roles while working from home. EXPANDED means SOME more, not ALL.

For SOME jobs, working from home results in corporate savings. Infrastructure costs are less for example.

I’m NOT suggesting anyone sacrifice anything PERMANENTLY. I am suggesting that we ALL sacrifice temporarily for the general health and welfare. That is in the definition of a civilization.

A personal note. Most of the jobs which I held could be done better from home. None were on joey’s list.

So, you would divide us into classes:

Those who must risk sacrificing their lives, and those who make sacrificial animals out of them.

Given the choice, which of the classes would you wish to be a member of?

Take this to the extreme: only the neediest will sacrifice to those more well off (i.e. sacrificial jobs will be preformed by those who are not qualified for an at-home job).

At some point -- when sacrificial, but needed, jobs go unfilled -- a government bureaucrat will be required to decide (nay, dictate) who's who.

Sounds fair to me.

 

In all seriousness, please understand what you are asking for.

There are many, many critical jobs that simply can not be done from home. Let me list a few:

• Medical Personnel
• Ambulance Drivers
• Firefighters
• Police
• Assembly Line Workers
• Grocers
• Truck Drivers
• Airline Pilots
• Assisted Living Facilities Personnel
• Food Processors
• Power Plant Operators
• Landfill Operators
• Post Office/Shipping Personnel
• Warehouse Personnel

And so on. Each of these are necessary for a functional economy -- and most for our very survival. And they cannot do their jobs at home.

What you are suggesting that each of these potentially sacrifice their (and their families'!) health, well-being, and -- possibly -- life, so that you can have the luxury of not sacrificing yours.

Damn selfish and cowardly. Shame on you.

All of those people you mentioned are still working like business as usual around here except the pilots. There has been drastic change in commercial flight since the outbreak but for all the others you mentioned, if anything they have been working overtime.

You sound like you're grumpy over not qualifying as essential to me.

 

I have contacted a few institutions in the past few weeks and was surprised at the number that admitted they were working from home, Banks assistance line, Co. purchasers, Insurance agents etc.
Max.

 

Why not put the most important part of that page up?
"Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story." from the top of that link.
And from the guy himself, his qualifications to even address this,
Deep Learning Scientist, Repeat Entrepreneur,

What? When have you posted the site policies on links you supply? Me thinks you protest too much for some odd reason.

https://www.razavian.org/ali
and your qualifications to counter any of his?

 

https://medium.com/@ali_razavian/covid-19-from-a-data-scientists-perspective-95bd4e84843b

That last point doesn't make sense.

In the U.S., estimated annual infections from the seasonal flu are in the 10 million to 50 million range. The claim is that we are 300 times more likely to catch COVID-19 than the flu. So doesn't that mean that we can expect between 3000 and 15000 million American to develop COVID-19? Pretty hard to pull off with a population of only 330 million or so.

 

That last point doesn't make sense.

In the U.S., estimated annual infections from the seasonal flu are in the 10 million to 50 million range. The claim is that we are 300 times more likely to catch COVID-19 than the flu. So doesn't that mean that we can expect between 3000 and 15000 million American to develop COVID-19? Pretty hard to pull off with a population of only 330 million or so.

I am convinced that fear is now being used to keep us in line.

Toward what end I am not sure, yet.

 

Here is something to lighten the mood

 

Hey Sinus, how have you been? Long time no post.

 

That last point doesn't make sense.

In the U.S., estimated annual infections from the seasonal flu are in the 10 million to 50 million range. The claim is that we are 300 times more likely to catch COVID-19 than the flu. So doesn't that mean that we can expect between 3000 and 15000 million American to develop COVID-19? Pretty hard to pull off with a population of only 330 million or so.

IMO we should use the world's population as the upper limit. The claimed number might be off but it's incredibly high because of the stealth onset of illness allows for highly contagious young, active asymptomatic people to mingle for long periods of time before we see a upward trend in initial symptoms in those at risk.

 

Me thinks you protest too much for some odd reason.

And me thinks you post too many things that only lean in your direction. Did you read the whole article the parts down at the bottom of the page?

and your qualifications to counter any of his?

None, none what so ever, but when I see someone not medically qualified making statements like that, I recall something - https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/11/15/liars-figure/

 

And me thinks you post too many things that only lean in your direction.

That's to be expected. It's not my job to support the IMO unsupportable unless it's in the Jokes Thread.

 

So, you would divide us into classes:

Those who must risk sacrificing their lives, and those who make sacrificial animals out of them.

Given the choice, which of the classes would you wish to be a member of?

Take this to the extreme: only the neediest will sacrifice to those more well off (i.e. sacrificial jobs will be preformed by those who are not qualified for an at-home job).

At some point -- when sacrificial, but needed, jobs go unfilled -- a government bureaucrat will be required to decide (nay, dictate) who's who.

Sounds fair to me.

Where did anyone divide anyone into classes? My comments are NOT intended to do such a thing.

I chose a profession. It is my career. In doing so, I went in with eyes wide open. There were risks. There were rewards.

If anyone divided us into classes, it is you.

COVID or not, many of those professions have risks. And unless you were clueless, you knew most of those risks when you signed up.

If you don’t like the current risk, then start looking for another job. But it’s YOUR decision, not mine nor the governments.

It wasn’t COVID19, but my job had a risk. Besides first responders and medical personnel, the career with the next highest suicide rate is IT. 70-80 hours a week on salary, frequent all -nighters and being woke and having to drive into the office at 2-3am. But I was very good, paid well, saved well and fortunately had acquaintences who intervened if I became suicidal.