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cmartinez

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shortbus

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I think that there is also an accepted train of thought that says that vaccinated people provide the environment that has the selective pressure to make resistant strains emerge.
That was a talking point from a right wing congressman a while back. But it's not true, or at least nothing in the medical side can prove it's true.
 

Reloadron

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How about the COVID side effects? I do not mean soreness where a shot was administered of feeling flu like symptoms for a day. I mean the general impact on day to day life. Last month I ordered my prescription for a drug I use called Viberzi. Medically, Eluxadoline, sold under the brand names Viberzi and Truberzi, is a medication taken by mouth for the treatment of diarrhea and abdominal pain in individuals with diarrhea-predominant irritable bowel syndrome. It was approved for use in the United States in 2015. I suffer from IBSD which really sucks but Viberzi does help. It's not a drug most pharmacies stock. Before COVID I could refill a prescription and have it the next day if I called it in early. So I called it in on a Friday morning figuring on Saturday and had a few days supply. Saturday I was told they no longer get weekend deliveries. Monday I was told they didn't have it. Wednesday I discover it was never ordered. I was down to taking only one per day which wasn't working well. Finally the following Tuesday I got my prescription along with a needed prescription for my wife. Calling the pharmacy just resulted in unanswered phone calls. While in Rite Aid I ran into a guy who told me Walgreens was just as bad. There was a time when I knew all the employees at my local store, today each visit is all new faces. There are people out here who rely on their medication. I can only assume those responsible for this mess, living well on capitol hill are not experiencing any problems. When visiting any retail establishments I trip over endless "help wanted" signs. Trying to even schedule a simple veterinary appointment is even problematic.

Anyone else having problems similar to this?

Shutting down an economy for a year seems to have consequences and the fact that COVID is spreading as well as it is pretty much sends a message the shutdowns were all for naught. Again, those making these decisions seem not effected in the least. Must be nice to be the king.

Ron
 
A side effect of my 3 doses is some ringing in my hearing which happens whenever I am doing very hard work. I guess my hearing thinks my body is working hard making lots of Covid antibodies to keep me healthy.
Another side effect I had was that my resting heartbeats missed a beat frequently for about a week but has been fine for the last 3 weeks.

My neighbors cannot get their 3rd dose because lineups at all vaccine clinics and pharmacies are too long and some people are waiting in the cold for hours. I got my 3rd dose 28 days ago as soon as allowed (6 months after the 2nd dose) and I waited indoors in line for about 3 minutes.

A pharmacist resigned and is telling people that pharmacies are now allowing people in to get tested for the virus and most of them might be unvaccinated and have the virus and are spreading it to everybody who goes shopping at a pharmacy. They should have separate clinics that do only testing.
The testing is mandated for idiots who go travelling to foreign countries. Now is not a time to travel!

Shutdowns are only for non-essential things. The basketball games are now restricted to 50% attendance to reduce the the 2000 people who get the virus there to "only" 1000 people. If the games are shut down completely then there will be nobody there to get the virus. Is a basketball game essential??
 

DickCappels

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Although there were some shortages of important drugs for people with typical "old people" problems, they seem to only last a few weeks. Fingers crossed; we don't know about next week.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Let's hope the symptoms remain mild over the long term. Getting "super immunity" from future variants might be worth the risk if you're healthy and fully vaccinated.

 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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How about the COVID side effects? I do not mean soreness where a shot was administered of feeling flu like symptoms for a day. I mean the general impact on day to day life. Last month I ordered my prescription for a drug I use called Viberzi. Medically, Eluxadoline, sold under the brand names Viberzi and Truberzi, is a medication taken by mouth for the treatment of diarrhea and abdominal pain in individuals with diarrhea-predominant irritable bowel syndrome. It was approved for use in the United States in 2015. I suffer from IBSD which really sucks but Viberzi does help. It's not a drug most pharmacies stock. Before COVID I could refill a prescription and have it the next day if I called it in early. So I called it in on a Friday morning figuring on Saturday and had a few days supply. Saturday I was told they no longer get weekend deliveries. Monday I was told they didn't have it. Wednesday I discover it was never ordered. I was down to taking only one per day which wasn't working well. Finally the following Tuesday I got my prescription along with a needed prescription for my wife. Calling the pharmacy just resulted in unanswered phone calls. While in Rite Aid I ran into a guy who told me Walgreens was just as bad. There was a time when I knew all the employees at my local store, today each visit is all new faces. There are people out here who rely on their medication. I can only assume those responsible for this mess, living well on capitol hill are not experiencing any problems. When visiting any retail establishments I trip over endless "help wanted" signs. Trying to even schedule a simple veterinary appointment is even problematic.

Anyone else having problems similar to this?

Shutting down an economy for a year seems to have consequences and the fact that COVID is spreading as well as it is pretty much sends a message the shutdowns were all for naught. Again, those making these decisions seem not effected in the least. Must be nice to be the king.

Ron
I feel your pain, in a small way.
My kid can't get her acne meds because of complete F-UP at the FDA.
https://www.dermatologytimes.com/view/aad-suggests-halting-ipledge-program
A scheduled change to the iPLEDGE Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy (REMS) has led to a delay in isotretinoin prescriptions. Physicians and their teams have been unable to access the iPLEDGE site during an update to incorporate an FDA-approved modification to the iPLEDGE REMS that took effect December 13, 2021.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/dermatology/generaldermatology/95108
 

Reloadron

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Although there were some shortages of important drugs for people with typical "old people" problems, they seem to only last a few weeks. Fingers crossed; we don't know about next week.
For me it's not about a shortage. It's about getting responsible people to work. Every time I go into the drugstore I see all new faces. Sometimes daily. Telephones go simple unanswered. Total train wreck.

Ron
 

Reloadron

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Today the UK, the Netherlands and Belgium have unvaccinated and unmasked protesting crowds going crazy by doing the opposite of what they should do to slow down the spread of the virus.
The UK reported 93,045 cases of virus in one day! The protesters will double that in another day.

We had an "essential" basketball game recently with the crowd limited to 50% and no eating or drinking. I wonder how many new virus cases it caused.
 

nsaspook

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https://researchnews.cc/news/10606/...ter-than-Delta-in-human-bronchus#.Yb9uatBKiUm
HONG KONG.- A study led by researchers from the LKS Faculty of Medicine at The University of Hong Kong provides the first information on how the novel Variant of Concern (VOC) of SARS-CoV-2, the Omicron SARS-CoV-2 infect human respiratory tract. The researchers found that Omicron SARS-CoV-2 infects and multiplies 70 times faster than the Delta variant and original SARS-CoV-2 in human bronchus, which may explain why Omicron may transmit faster between humans than previous variants. Their study also showed that the Omicron infection in the lung is significantly lower than the original SARS-CoV-2, which may be an indicator of lower disease severity. This research is currently under peer review for publication.
 
What a coincidence. I met a neighbor who said she is fully vaccinated but her husband is an antivaxxer and takes vitamins C and D instead.
He is a teacher who was getting a Covid test twice weekly. His students and their parents do not know he is not vaccinated.

I take the recommended amounts of vitamins C and D, not the overdose levels. I am triple vaccinated and am heathy because I stay away from antivaxxers.
President Biden has a warning for antivaxxers he will make on Tuesday. It might be nasty for them.
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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What a coincidence. I met a neighbor who said she is fully vaccinated but her husband is an antivaxxer and takes vitamins C and D instead.
He is a teacher who was getting a Covid test twice weekly. His students and their parents do not know he is not vaccinated.

I take the recommended amounts of vitamins C and D, not the overdose levels. I am triple vaccinated and am heathy because I stay away from antivaxxers.
President Biden has a warning for antivaxxers he will make on Tuesday. It might be nasty for them.
As vaccinated also transmit the virus, it is oddly safer to have an unvaccinated worker who is getting regular COVID tests than vaccinated who are not, would you not agree?
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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We are going to get high numbers of infections and cases from omicron with anything short of locking people into air-tight nuclear bunkers or living a hermit life. Most of us will be exposed to the virus even if we wear masks, distance and keep away from unvaccinated crowds. The most countermeasures can do now is to delay a bit when that exposure will happen if case trends continue, closing things down IMO won't change anything . What we do have is control of is the consequences of that exposure in most cases with vaccination and improving our immune response.

I guess the unvaccinated are also lucky the virus obeys the laws of physics. The virus replication process only has X amount of energy, more of that limited energy supply seems to be directed at super fast replication in the upper respiratory area (cold like symptoms) with omicron instead of deep in the lungs like with delta. It will likely be bad for them but it could be a lot worse.
 
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