TheReport.com, the website of the Bulletin Of Atomic Scientists (the organization that publishes the doomsday clock status) published an article about how human error at a virology lab is the most likely source of the next pandemic. Published February 2019.

https://thebulletin.org/2019/02/human-error-in-high-biocontainment-labs-a-likely-pandemic-threat/

Sure, it's a valid threat but the viral history evidence here points to something other than a lab leak as the source of this pandemic.

Nature is usually a lot more deadly. COVID-19 is actually pretty mild on the contagion scale.

https://time.com/magazine/us/4766607/may-15th-2017-vol-189-no-18-u-s/

The consequences of a major pandemic would be world-changing. The 1918 flu pandemic killed 50 million to 100 million people–at the top end, more than the combined total casualties of World Wars I and II–and for a slew of reasons, humans are arguably more vulnerable today than they were 100 years ago. First of all, there are simply more of us. The number of people on the planet has doubled in the past 50 years, which means more humans to get infected and to infect others, especially in densely populated cities. Because people no longer stay in one place–nearly 4 billion trips were taken by air last year–neither do diseases. An infection in all but the most remote corner of the world can make its way to a major city in a day or less.

 

I don't care where it came from, I'm just disappointed that the years government spending on planning and research resulted in nothing significant to prepare us for supplies, vaccine or know-how (do cloth masks do anything, do planes filter are well enough to travel safely, thousand other questions) should all have been known for each major type of virus by now. It should have been understood when the last US based surgical gown manufacturer closed in 2005 that no masks or gowns would be available if a pandemic occurred so where was the trillion-mask stock pile? Nurses were getting infected daily for not having fresh masks. Wearing N-95 masks with holes in them because the 1-time use mask was getting treated and treated with hydrogen peroxide vapor. Laughable of not so sad. We had two nurses pass in our local hospital each with two small children. They were each under 40. Tell me they had underlying health issues and I'll tell you those issues wouldn't have killed them in 2020.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html
Fauci: US shouldn't loosen coronavirus restrictions until daily new cases fall below 10,000

That day is happening soon.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/30/us-covid-cases-lowest-in-a-year-as-memorial-day-travel-picks-up.html

The U.S. has reported the lowest number of Covid-19 cases in more than a year, as the nation’s airports over Memorial Day weekend experienced the largest number of travelers since the pandemic began.

The 11,976 new cases reported on May 29 were the lowest since March 23, 2020, when 11,238 new cases were reported, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

 

I'm just disappointed that the years government spending on planning and research resulted in nothing significant to prepare us

There was a plan in place, made over many years of thinking and planning. But because it was leftover from previous administrations it was thrown out, never even looked at or used, just the books title was enough to get it dismissed. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/national-strategy/index.html

 

In a shocking turn of events, vaccines apparently lower the risk of getting a disease the vaccine targets.
https://komonews.com/news/coronavir...s-in-king-county-are-from-unvaccinated-people
Almost all new COVID cases in King Co. are from unvaccinated people, experts say

 

hi,
At this time in the UK, there was one reported death due to Covid yesterday and none for today.

To date, approx 60million people have been vaccinated in the UK.

Lets hope that it is a sign of better times to come, still early days....

E

 

In a shocking turn of events, vaccines apparently lower the risk of getting a disease the vaccine targets.
https://komonews.com/news/coronavir...s-in-king-county-are-from-unvaccinated-people
Almost all new COVID cases in King Co. are from unvaccinated people, experts say

Shocking, and completely unexpected!

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/he...oronavirus-variants-get-new-names-2021-05-31/

Coronavirus variants with clunky, alphanumeric names have now been assigned the letters of the Greek alphabet to simplify discussion and pronunciation while avoiding stigma.

The World Health Organization revealed the new names on Monday amid criticism that those given by scientists to strains such as the South African variant - which goes by multiple names including B.1.351, 501Y.V2 and 20H/501Y.V2 - were too complicated.
...
Before the new WHO scheme, some scientists had adopted their own simplified nomenclature for variants such as in a February paper using bird names. However, this was criticised on the grounds that this could imperil birds and by the mother of a girl named Robin.

 

You can't win them all. Some will win, some will lose.

Hurricanes were given girl names. So to make sure that the other sex was not being short changed they started to alternate between girl and boy names.

For whatever reason, parents don't want to name their "Karen".

So what now? All corona viruses have a Greek origin?

Anyone for corona-pi to go with the Corona Extra?

 

https://www.statnews.com/2021/06/02...diverse-simplifying-task-of-making-flu-shots/
A pandemic upside: The flu virus became less diverse, simplifying the task of making flu shots

But an unexpected upside of the Covid-19 pandemic may have solved this problem for us — or at least made flu’s diversity more manageable.

With Covid suppression measures like mask wearing, school closures, and travel restrictions driving flu transmission rates to historically low levels around the world, it appears that one of the H3N2 clades may have disappeared — gone extinct. The same phenomenon may also have occurred with one of the two lineages of influenza B viruses, known as B/Yamagata.

Neither has been spotted in over a year. In fact, March of 2020 was the last time viral sequences from B/Yamagata or the H3N2 clade known as 3c3.A were uploaded into the international databases used to monitor flu virus evolution, Trevor Bedford, a computational biologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, told STAT.

 

https://www.statnews.com/2021/06/02...diverse-simplifying-task-of-making-flu-shots/
A pandemic upside: The flu virus became less diverse, simplifying the task of making flu shots

See! Who said masks don't work!

 

See! Who said masks don't work!

Yes, they work but vaccines are magnitudes better. This state is just about done with mandates because of vaccines, not masks.

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/202...when-70-of-adults-have-at-least-one-dose.html

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown announced Friday that she’ll lift all capacity limits on restaurants, gyms, stadiums and other businesses and abolish mask requirements for even unvaccinated people in nearly all public settings when the state reaches 70% of its adults vaccinated against COVID-19 with at least one dose.


That’s a mark the state could reach by June 24, according to an analysis by The Oregonian/OregonLive of current daily vaccination rates. The governor, however, initially provided no date for when she believes the state will receive this vaccination threshold.
...
The governor also will lift all physical distancing requirements statewide -- although, again, it’s unclear if special rules will remain in place for schools.

 

Yes, they work but vaccines are magnitudes better. This state is just about done with mandates because of vaccines, not masks.

Thought you were talking about the lack of a normal flu outbreak? That is what the link was about. I get the normal flu vaccine every year, but still sometimes get a mild case. Not so this year, because I suppose every one wearing a mask.

 

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown announced Friday that she’ll lift all capacity limits on restaurants, gyms, stadiums and other businesses and abolish mask requirements for even unvaccinated people in nearly all public settings when the state reaches 70% of its adults vaccinated against COVID-19 with at least one dose.

So the governor's resorting to blackmail now? Classy!

 

So the governor's resorting to blackmail now? Classy!

who is she blackmailing? Is she blackmailing those people between current and 70% (so everyone can get released from constraints), or is she blackmailing those last 30% of people who refuse to get vaccinated by allowing all other non-vaccinated people to spittle on each other as they scream in the arena?

 

This old link is still relevant as her immortal cells are now being used to produce Covid vaccines.
Henrietta Lacks Born 100 years ago last month.

 

So the governor's resorting to blackmail now? Classy!

Here in Ohio they started a vaccine lottery. They pick a winner a week for 5 weeks from those vaccinated. The payout is $1,000,000 over 5 weeks (5 drawings). They also pick one juvenile each week and that deal is fully paid college tuition. While the state has gone ahead with this it is under a legal challenge. Problem is some people, myself included, feel this is an unjust use of tax dollars. Bribe people to get vaccinated?


"In Ohio, 5,402,138 people or 46% of the state has received at least one dose.

Overall, 4,746,369 people or 40% of Ohio's population has been fully vaccinated".

Not very good numbers and as of now just about everyplace is offering vaccines short of corner hot dog vendors.

Ron

 

Here in Ohio they started a vaccine lottery. They pick a winner a week for 5 weeks from those vaccinated. The payout is $1,000,000 over 5 weeks (5 drawings). They also pick one juvenile each week and that deal is fully paid college tuition. While the state has gone ahead with this it is under a legal challenge. Problem is some people, myself included, feel this is an unjust use of tax dollars. Bribe people to get vaccinated?


"In Ohio, 5,402,138 people or 46% of the state has received at least one dose.

Overall, 4,746,369 people or 40% of Ohio's population has been fully vaccinated".

Not very good numbers and as of now just about everyplace is offering vaccines short of corner hot dog vendors.

Ron

To me it just shows the herd immunity percentage needed to stop the pandemic is lower than the numbers commonly used now for required population vaccination levels. We do need to increase the vaccination levels so we have a buffer to keep those case numbers low during localized virus clusters that will still happen.

 

This old link is still relevant as her immortal cells are now being used to produce Covid vaccines.
Henrietta Lacks Born 100 years ago last month.

lol I have the book.

https://www.amazon.com/Immortal-Life-Henrietta-Lacks/dp/1400052181

kv

 

Here in Ohio they started a vaccine lottery. They pick a winner a week for 5 weeks from those vaccinated. The payout is $1,000,000 over 5 weeks (5 drawings). They also pick one juvenile each week and that deal is fully paid college tuition. While the state has gone ahead with this it is under a legal challenge. Problem is some people, myself included, feel this is an unjust use of tax dollars. Bribe people to get vaccinated?


"In Ohio, 5,402,138 people or 46% of the state has received at least one dose.

Overall, 4,746,369 people or 40% of Ohio's population has been fully vaccinated".

Not very good numbers and as of now just about everyplace is offering vaccines short of corner hot dog vendors.

Ron

The Lottery is just a form of advertising but more effective. The arguments against the Lottery is like saying (non-lottery advertisements for the vaccine are an unfair tax because I already got vaccinated. Same for advertisements to get a prostate exam or colonoscopy because I already got one. At least the million in giveaway gets some traction and everyone across the country is talking about it (not just Ohio). It seems like a pretty damn effective advertising campaign. And just think - you wouldn't have thought twice about an add with some crackling voice saying "get your vaccine" but, because the million is not paid only to the media companies but shared with your fellow citizens, there is something illegal or sinister about it. Advertising in other states is close to zero% effective. Now, which is a bigger waste of money - lottery that gets a needle in an arm or a zero% effective ads?