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dl324

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I think the thing with the CDC, and I am not in any CDC fan club is whatever they do release they want it to be valid.
They've already lost credibility because the first test kits they distributed were defective. They had 6-8 weeks to prepare for the arrival of the virus because it was reported in China in November and wasted that time. South Korea has tested 70k people, we're still around 2k. The million tests that were supposed to be available yesterday turned out to be 75k, but we're being told that the rest will be shipped shortly. What does that mean? Put it on a government jet and fly it where it needs to be.

I don't know what games they were playing with requirements for a person to be tested. They've relaxed that now, but how can we know what our infection and death rates are if we can't do widespread testing? I used to trust most government agencies; now I don't. It seems like they're sugar coating things to protect their jobs or at least not be attacked by tweet.
 

dl324

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Thanks for the reminder, I need more ammo.
I decided to go with a shotgun. Have a reloader, gunpower gunpowder, shot, and primers. I have chemistry books so I can make gunpowder and stuff I can melt down to make shot. I'm not a prepper, but I believe in taking prudent precautions.

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Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Believe me, I understand where you are coming come. However, if you are cancelling a trip, you are not losing money. The money has already been spent. You are losing the "something" which was cancelled. If I spent $10,000 to go to the Super Bowl and could not go because I got sick or my boss told me to work "or else", I lost out on the Super Bowl not $10,000. As for my investments, they are doing just fine. Check out this graph. So far, the hit is comparable to the 2018 end of year dip. Finally, yes, the (probable) pandemic sucks but it cannot be ignored and people should not expect for things to be "as usual" for a few months. It will pass and everything will go back to "normal".
Actually you're right. Off topic but years ago my sister planned a trip for her and her husband, may have been an Alaskan cruise. Her husband developed cancer and the cruise never happened. She lost her husband. Cindy is a wise girl and actually took out insurance just on a whim. When all was said and done the insurance was cheap and she was only out about $100 on about a (K investment. The money was spent but they were out the trip. This is the same sister currently cruising Polynesia. Just left Fiji and while she is mad that Tonga refused the ship entry they are going to Bora Bora so small sacrifice. All in all she is enjoying. :)

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Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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I decided to go with a shotgun. Have a reloader, gunpower, shot, and primers. I have chemistry books so I can make gunpowder and stuff I can melt down to make shot. I'm not a prepper, but I believe in taking prudent precautions.
You don't even want to know how much powder, primers, bullets and brass I stockpiled over the years. :) Never thought of myself as a prepper but.... :)

Ron
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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There was an article a couple of days ago about Mass. General Hospital. Just outside of Boston they have 2 warehouses of stockpiled medical supplies earmarked just for a possible pandemic. Must be a herculean task to maintain it all "in date". Near here at an ex-Navy Airport large enough to handle the C5 transport is a huge MAP International site which also warehouses medical supplies ready to be shipped anywhere in the world that it is needed for emergency support.
 

SamR

Joined Mar 19, 2019
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You don't even want to know how much powder, primers, bullets and brass I stockpiled
I see these articles about some idiot being arrested and the press carrying on about the "Arsenal of Weapons" found and think to myself "is that all he had". I used to buy it by the brick or case and God only knows how much I have stashed around in bits and pieces along with an entire walk-in closet shelf full. Got to have a minimum of 100 rounds for each caliber and mostly much more. God forbid the house ever catches fire.
 

dl324

Joined Mar 30, 2015
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US deaths 19. Washington 16, California 1, Florida 2.

Washington is the one that's difficult to track because it's unknown how long the nursing home has had coronavirus or how many have it. In spite of what you may have heard, testing is still restricted. Of the 3500 people on the ship outside of San Francisco, only 46 were considered for testing and 21 were positive. The people tested found out they might have the virus from a TV report.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...ashington-now-at-16-with-102-confirmed-cases/
 
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Reloadron

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I see these articles about some idiot being arrested and the press carrying on about the "Arsenal of Weapons" found and think to myself "is that all he had". I used to buy it by the brick or case and God only knows how much I have stashed around in bits and pieces along with an entire walk-in closet shelf full. Got to have a minimum of 100 rounds for each caliber and mostly much more. God forbid the house ever catches fire.
Happens all the time. It makes a media feeding frenzy and no laws are broken. Average nice day at the outdoor range I go through easily 200 rounds and that is not just blasting away I don't do mag dumps. Twice a week easily 1,600 rounds a month and compared to some that is low. Then we have morons in politics who think taxing ammo will somehow reduce crime. Glad I live in Ohio. I have no idea how much ammo I have let along any idea how much I could make. Never saw any reason to keep track. :)

Ron
 

nsaspook

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US deaths 19. Washington 16, California 1, Florida 2.

Washington is the one that's difficult to track because it's unknown how long the nursing home has had coronavirus or how many have it. In spite of what you may have heard, testing is still restricted. Of the 3500 people on the ship outside of San Francisco, only 46 were considered for testing and 21 were positive. The people tested found out they might have the virus from a TV report.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...ashington-now-at-16-with-102-confirmed-cases/
This is an important line from that article.
Even with increased testing, confirmed cases are likely to be an undercount of the actual number of cases in the area. Most people with COVID-19 will experience only minor symptoms, and health officials do not recommend they get tested. Instead, officials are instructing those who are not at high risk of severe symptoms to isolate themselves and to call before visiting their doctors.
 

dl324

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Most people with COVID-19 will experience only minor symptoms, and health officials do not recommend they get tested. Instead, officials are instructing those who are not at high risk of severe symptoms to isolate themselves and to call before visiting their doctors.
The problem with this type of reasoning is that a young person with mild symptoms could pass the virus to people who could have a more severe reaction. How can an at risk person know they're associating with someone who should be staying away from people? Case in point - the person who was tested for COVID-19 and told to self isolate until he got the results. He ignored the advice and went to a gathering and exposed a lot more than 2 people to the virus.

https://www.unionleader.com/news/he...cle_2da63bb4-818e-5774-a213-f40777cb0180.html

There are far too many people who are too stupid to do the right thing. I've known people who went to work when they were very sick. They thought they were being a dedicated worker when all they were doing was spreading whatever they had to those who might not have otherwise been exposed to it.

I've told bosses who didn't send obviously sick people home that if I caught whatever it was that they had, I *would* stay home. I've actually asked some managers if they've inquired about what sick employees had and whether it was contaigous.
 

dl324

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I think that most officials know we can't contain this by testing and isolating the general population.
Everyone should be able to get tested at whatever frequency the government thinks is sufficient. That way, everyone can know whether they're a carrier and do the responsible thing.

Just because 80% of people who are positive will exhibit mild symptoms, that doesn't mean they should be allowed to go around and pass it to the 20% who will have more severe consequences; or the few percent who will die from it.
 

Analog Ground

Joined Apr 24, 2019
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Breaking news tonight. Italy may lock down 16 million people in the greater Milan area. Nobody in or out for almost a month.
 
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visionofast

Joined Oct 17, 2018
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ahh...all these sh!t things comes from freemason lodges everyday entire the world, just as assassin's creed games, we have to find and slaughter'em.
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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I decided to go with a shotgun. Have a reloader, gunpower gunpowder, shot, and primers. I have chemistry books so I can make gunpowder and stuff I can melt down to make shot. I'm not a prepper, but I believe in taking prudent precautions.

EDIT: correct typo
Have you actually MADE usable gunpowder? If not, don't count on being able to do so just because you have a chemistry book. Getting usable powder takes far more than having the right ingredients in the right proportions. So, again if you haven't, go do it and research or figure out what you have to do to get it to actually work.
 
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