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MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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The good influenza results above are clear evidence that Buffalo Theory is real!
- As wolves kill the weakest, slowest Buffalo, the remaining herd can move faster;
- Drinking Beer can make you smarter, because alcohol kills the slowest, weakest brain cells and only the fastest, strongest cells survive;
- a global pandemic of COVID-19 makes humans more resistant to the Flu by removing 250,000 of the weakest, sickest, before the flu season starts.

The flu data is crap this year - completely washed out by cautionary behaviors for Covid and reasons listed in the third point above.
 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-55053846
The world's largest maker of latex gloves will shut more than half of its factories after almost 2,500 employees tested positive for coronavirus.
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On Monday, Malaysia's health ministry reported a sharp rise in Covid-19 cases in areas where Top Glove factories and dormitories are located.
Nearly 5,800 workers have been screened so far with 2,453 testing positive, it said.
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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Once more about the flu:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/flu-u...ths-15-500-cases-so-far-this-season-1.3757919

This is from 2018. Now imagine if flu was tracked same as what is happening right now and reported in the same way...

The question thst has been on my mind is why did this not happen with previous outbreaks? What changed to precipitate the need for this mass hysteria? There is a condition called collective psychosis and I believe we have it.

There was a write up from England about positives and negatives of lockdown. I cannot find it right now but obviously there is a long list of negatives and the only positive they came up with is community coming together. Except I see the opposite. I see people asking where they call to report their neighbor who invited some people over.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Once more about the flu:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/flu-u...ths-15-500-cases-so-far-this-season-1.3757919

This is from 2018. Now imagine if flu was tracked same as what is happening right now and reported in the same way...

The question thst has been on my mind is why did this not happen with previous outbreaks? What changed to precipitate the need for this mass hysteria? There is a condition called collective psychosis and I believe we have it.

There was a write up from England about positives and negatives of lockdown. I cannot find it right now but obviously there is a long list of negatives and the only positive they came up with is community coming together. Except I see the opposite. I see people asking where they call to report their neighbor who invited some people over.
More Canadians are coughing, sniffling and sneezing though what health officials say is a flu season with higher than normal activity.
How is this possible if the "science" tells us masks work?
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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Once more about the flu:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/flu-u...ths-15-500-cases-so-far-this-season-1.3757919

This is from 2018. Now imagine if flu was tracked same as what is happening right now and reported in the same way...

The question thst has been on my mind is why did this not happen with previous outbreaks? What changed to precipitate the need for this mass hysteria? There is a condition called collective psychosis and I believe we have it.

There was a write up from England about positives and negatives of lockdown. I cannot find it right now but obviously there is a long list of negatives and the only positive they came up with is community coming together. Except I see the opposite. I see people asking where they call to report their neighbor who invited some people over.
Our local official is taking justified hell for those comments.
https://news.yahoo.com/oregon-gov-kate-brown-encourages-185241085.html
 
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MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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So heroin is legal now (if I am correct), but you will go to jail for having family over in the name of public health? Seems logical.
if you pay the tax on the heroine, it's legal. If you pay the "we've giving guests for Thanksgiving Tax", family gatherings become legal and safe.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/world/covid-mutation.html
Dr. Baric’s team placed an infected hamster in a cage, adjacent to the cage of an uninfected one; the cages were several inches apart, so the animals could not touch one another. Any transmission could occur only through the air, in droplets or aerosols.
After two days, five of eight hamsters with the 614G variant had infected its pair. None of those with the ancestral virus had done so.
“When you take all the data together, everything is consistent with a system that increases infectiousness and transmissibility,” Dr. Baric said.
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The virus will continue to change, and while most of those changes will be mere typos, some may be more meaningful, Dr. Engelthaler said. “There will be the possibility of additional alterations that change the nature of the pandemic,” he said.

Already, Dr. Engelthaler said, he has seen strong indications of such alterations in his own unpublished data tracking the spread of different variants in Arizona.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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To create a mutated virus, you can either make a cascade of 60-million generations of virus by inoculating new Petri dishes with a culture from a previous generation, or, you can recruit some superspreaders and encourage a bunch of koolaid drinkers to interact with the superspreaders. Suddenly, 60-million living Petri dishes of potential mutations. I'm happy our society wasn't asked to make sacrifices to their lifestyle for the sake of a bullets/bombs/invasion war.
 
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justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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From what I have seen, science on masks is inconclusive at best.

The article I posted about large number of flu cases is from 2018 which was a pretty bad flu year. Almost 16000 cases by January in Canada, active counting usually starts in October, so that is 3-4 months. With so many cases and flu being deadly to seniors, why no school and business closures to save lives?
To create a mutated virus, you can either make a cascade of 60-million generations of virus by inoculating new Petri dishes with a culture from a previous generation, or, you can recruit some superspreaders and encourage a bunch of koolaid drinkers to interact with the superspreaders. Suddenly, 60-million living Petri dishes of potential mutations. I'm happy our society wasn't asked to make sacrifices to their lifestyle for the sake of a bullets/bombs/invasion war.
The comparisons to bullets/bombs/invasion/war are rediculous. There the enemy is real. It is another human being and you know that. Through wars people fought to keep their lives going as normal, to see their friends and neighbors, to have and attend concerts while the world crumbles around them.

"War" against a virus cannot be won. This particular virus is not deadly, it is not smallpox, not measles, and not the plague. It will follow its path responding to pressures we are putting on it. I believe we are likely making things worse for majority of the population by weakening immune system in general. Instead of living, the society seems to be busy with preserving a way of life...

Dont onow about US, but here in Canada I find the following few things interesting. It was known that there will be a spike in the fall and it is obvious that long term facilities are vulnerable:

- outbreaks continue in long term homes and general public is being blamed
- no measures have been put in place to expand capacity. This happens every year during flu season as well when hospitals are over run. This now is also the publics fault.

So now when an 80 year old cancer patient passes a few months early, young people must feel bad because they wanted to go out and play hockey.
 

MrSalts

Joined Apr 2, 2020
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"War" against a virus cannot be won.
I disagree. Wars on viruses have been fought and won. It just depends on how much sacrifice your team is willing to make to win. New Zealand is doing a great job of it as are several other Asian countries. The war on Ebola was also won without a vaccine. It pops up again and again but proper measures.

Our teams made great strides in April and that training should have carried through to eradication like New Zealand. It is just a question of sacrifice but saying can't, impossible, not reaistic simply means "not willing to sacrifice". Sacrifice means giving up rights for the team. No worse than agreeing to be drafted or told to wear shoes and shirts in a restaurant (note: there is no evidence that shirtless or barefooted people spread disease).
 
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justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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I disagree. Wars on viruses have been caught and won. It just depends on how much sacrifice your team is willing to make to win. New Zealand is doing a great job of it as are several other Asian countries. The war on Ebola was also won without a vaccine. It pops up again and again but proper measures.

Our teams made great strides in April and that training should have carried through to eradication like New Zealand. It is just a question of sacrifice but saying can't, impossible, not reaistic simply means "not willing to sacrifice". Sacrifice means giving up rights for the team. No worse than agreeing to be drafted or told to wear shoes and shirts in a restaurant (note: there is no evidence that shirtless or barefooted people spread disease).
Ok. I am game if I can go to a restaurant wearing nothing but a mask!

Asia has prior immunity. Coronaviruses circulate through those areas naturally and consistently. Australia and New Zealand are artificially buying time because they are basically large islands isolated from everyone.

Just now in Canada the "Atlantic" bubble finally broke and there are outbreaks in Nuanvut...

Let me clarify, the war against this virus will not be won.

We actually havent eradicated any viruses if you check carefully. There were a handful of successful vaccination campaigns but these are for very specific very stable groups of diseases that show no rapid mutation. Good luck convincing people at low risk to take on a fast track vaccine that is based on unproven technology. Mandating a vaccine for all will be interesting. Whose rights are more important now? Who is taking the risk? I have epilepsy. If my seizures come back, who will be compensating me?

There was an article showing uptake of flu vaccine among medical professionals. It is high. The only thing they forgot to mension is that if you work at a hospital you are mandated to take the shot (in US).
I am wondering what the flu shot uptake in Canada for healthcare workers is this year as you can opt out but then you have to wear a mask. Any year prior this is a big inconvenience, but this year we are stuck with thw muzzle either way. So there you go. I have never gotten a flu shot and have been sick once in 20 years. Will see what future holds.

p.s. i have specifically used the word "war" here because this is how it is being covered with vocabulary such as "saccrifice", do it for your grandparents, the veterans etc...
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Ok. I am game if I can go to a restaurant wearing nothing but a mask!

Asia has prior immunity. Coronaviruses circulate through those areas naturally and consistently. Australia and New Zealand are artificially buying time because they are basically large islands isolated from everyone.

Just now in Canada the "Atlantic" bubble finally broke and there are outbreaks in Nuanvut...

Let me clarify, the war against this virus will not be won.

We actually havent eradicated any viruses if you check carefully. There were a handful of successful vaccination campaigns but these are for very specific very stable groups of diseases that show no rapid mutation. Good luck convincing people at low risk to take on a fast track vaccine that is based on unproven technology. Mandating a vaccine for all will be interesting. Whose rights are more important now? Who is taking the risk? I have epilepsy. If my seizures come back, who will be compensating me?

There was an article showing uptake of flu vaccine among medical professionals. It is high. The only thing they forgot to mension is that if you work at a hospital you are mandated to take the shot (in US).
I am wondering what the flu shot uptake in Canada for healthcare workers is this year as you can opt out but then you have to wear a mask. Any year prior this is a big inconvenience, but this year we are stuck with thw muzzle either way. So there you go. I have never gotten a flu shot and have been sick once in 20 years. Will see what future holds.

p.s. i have specifically used the word "war" here because this is how it is being covered with vocabulary such as "saccrifice", do it for your grandparents, the veterans etc...
We incorrigibles require obedience education:

 
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