hi,
A disturbing problem in Sweden regarding Covid 19.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...rms-triggering-culls-prevent-human-infections

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hi,
A disturbing problem in Sweden regarding Covid 19.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...rms-triggering-culls-prevent-human-infections

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https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/coronavirus.166679/post-1566613

https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/coronavirus.166679/post-1521781

 

https://apnews.com/article/pfizer-vaccine-effective-early-data-4f4ae2e3bad122d17742be22a2240ae8

Pfizer said Monday that early results from its coronavirus vaccine suggest the shots may be a surprisingly robust 90% effective at preventing COVID-19, putting the company on track to apply later this month for emergency-use approval from the Food and Drug Administration.

 

What do they mean by "emergency" use, I mean once you have CV it's too late for a vaccine.

 

What do they mean by "emergency" use, I mean once you have CV it's too late for a vaccine.

https://wayback.archive-it.org/7993...errorism/MedicalCountermeasures/UCM380269.pdf

The EUA authority is a legal mechanism that allows FDA to help strengthen the nation’s public
health protections against CBRN threats by facilitating the availability of MCMs needed during
public health emergencies. Under section 564 of the FD&C Act (21 U.S.C. 360bbb-3), the FDA
Commissioner can allow either (a) the use of an unapproved medical product (e.g., drug, vaccine, or
diagnostic device) or (b) the unapproved use of an approved medical product during an emergency to
diagnose, treat, or prevent a serious or life-threatening disease or condition caused by a CBRN agent
if certain statutory criteria are met.
3 When scientific evidence is available to support such a use in an
emergency, issuing an EUA enables response stakeholders to use, or prepare to use, an MCM without
violating the FD&C Act.

 

Ok, so the emergency is the entire pandemic, not case by case.

Got it.

Thanks

 

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/cor...-wave-avoid-new-closures-grow-urgent/2714495/

NYC on Verge of ‘Full-Blown' 2nd Wave as Positivity Rate Nears School Shutdown Mark

https://www.inquirer.com/health/cor...s-testing-hospital-vaccine-news-20201110.html

N.J. reports dramatic COVID surge; Philly and Pa. hit new highs; city schools to remain fully virtual until further notice

https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...he-nations-test-case-for-covid-herd-immunity/

Is Florida a test case for coronavirus herd immunity? Experts warn it’s deadly

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/map/florida
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429

 

The nationwide data has not clearly shown exponential growth that is characteristic of an epidemic because the regional outbreaks have generally caused abatement efforts soon after the noticeable growth in the region. When combined with national data, the outbreak growth in April and July look more linear. Now that the entire nation has been inoculated, and the whole nation is suffering from Mask Fatigue, we are now seeing exponential growth of new cases.

 

The nationwide data has not clearly shown exponential growth that is characteristic of an epidemic because the regional outbreaks have generally caused abatement efforts soon after the noticeable growth in the region. When combined with national data, the outbreak growth in April and July look more linear. Now that the entire nation has been inoculated, and the whole nation is suffering from Mask Fatigue, we are now seeing exponential growth of new cases.

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I think it's more than Mask Fatigue. Here, everybody wears masks (even rioters ). The CV infection vector has jumped the cloth and surgical masking fence by becoming more infectious while also losing potency and increasing the rates of young asymptomatic infection. This means that effective mask usage must be very high among the very groups that are socialize more while believing they won't personally be affected by CV.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6941e2.htm

Some young adults admitted to not wearing a mask when socializing with friends, which might indicate a sense of security when interacting with friends. Moreover, the expectation that they would likely be fine if they contracted COVID-19, coupled with social or peer pressure, might help explain transmission patterns among young adults. Although young adults perceived a low severity of disease outcome for themselves, many expressed concerns about transmitting SARS-CoV-2 to loved ones at risk and to the broader community. Having a sense of responsibility to others might explain why young adults reported wearing masks when shopping and why most held positive views of masks. However, when not in physical contact with loved ones at risk, young adults might choose to not wear a mask or to attend larger gatherings with peers who might also perceive a low severity of disease outcome for themselves. Exposure to misinformation and conflicting messages regarding masks might make it difficult to know what information to trust, underscoring the importance of providing clear and consistent messages during an outbreak (3,4). Among the few young adults who expressed negative attitudes about masks and social distancing or who had questions about the effectiveness of masks, those views appeared to be based on the expressed need to make their own choices (i.e., personal agency).

Because of masks and other precautions most expect almost no flu season this year as that set of "viruses" have not adapted to the new environment. Calls for increase mask usage are mainly useful for decreasing the CV viral load today in the general population IMO because the entire country is in a social asymptomatic super-spreader event lead by the young.
https://necsi.edu/first-thoughts-on-superspreader-events

Most regions have effectively said this by going back to strong lock-downs (close places socialized by the young) to reduce infection transfers because that's the only thing that works in the prevention/stop/kill the virus universe. The alternative is the Sweden/Florida approach to effectively let the super-spreaders get infected early and reduce the exponential growth to something more linear. This had the first wave disadvantage of higher death rates in at risk populations when the virus more more potent and treatments were less effective. Today the risk, IMO from that method, has been greatly reduced but the medical media is still repeating statistics from the first set of infections to enforce the need for future lock-downs.

 

Maybe "mask fatigue" was the wrong phrase, "COVID lockdown Fatigue". Some extroverts can't help themselves and just need to socialize - be with real people. I am fine with spouse and socially distant conversations with neighbors. I can completely understand the need for social contact by young people in a 1-bedroom apartment and no close friends in the building. I don't like it and I had hopes the ycould do better but, I understand it.

 

 

Get ready and stock up on supplies early.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/11/bid...ould-control-pandemic-and-revive-economy.html

HEALTH AND SCIENCE
U.S. lockdown of 4 to 6 weeks could control pandemic and revive economy

A nationwide lockdown would drive the number of new cases and hospitalizations down to manageable levels while the world awaits a vaccine, he told Yahoo Finance on Wednesday.

“We could pay for a package right now to cover all of the wages, lost wages for individual workers for losses to small companies to medium-sized companies or city, state, county governments. We could do all of that,” he said. “If we did that, then we could lockdown for four-to-six weeks.”

We had to destroy the village to save it.

 

Get ready and stock up on supplies early.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/11/bid...ould-control-pandemic-and-revive-economy.html

HEALTH AND SCIENCE
U.S. lockdown of 4 to 6 weeks could control pandemic and revive economy


We had to destroy the village to save it.

God help us.

 

Get ready and stock up on supplies early.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/11/bid...ould-control-pandemic-and-revive-economy.html

HEALTH AND SCIENCE
U.S. lockdown of 4 to 6 weeks could control pandemic and revive economy


We had to destroy the village to save it.

Sir... we can save your lungs if you stop breathing for half an hour...

 

Sir... we can save your lungs if you stop breathing for half an hour...

Well, anything is possible. Russia set fire to its former capital in the war of 1812... Napoleon was defeated shortly after...

Just a theory, but what I see us doing (from what I remember of my genetics/evolution studies) is prolonging our collective suffering. Cumulative deaths will not change over the course of this pandemic. Also, what if a more virulent flu strain emerges as we exert new pressures on it? That would be great!

In my province the deaths continue in long term care facilities so clearly the PPE does not work as it is only the healthcare workers that can bring it in? But noone is discussing this of course. 80% of those who died are over 80.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8942267/Daily-COVID-19-death-toll-spikes-nearly-1-900.html

Dr Anthony Fauci said he wants to avoid a national lockdown because there is 'no appetite for locking down the American public'.
He has insisted that a national lockdown doesn't need to happen if people adhere to public health measures like mask-wearing and hand-washing.
'We would like to stay away from that because there's no appetite for locking down the American public. I believe we can do it without a lockdown,' Fauci told ABC's GMA on Thursday.
'You don't necessarily have to shut everything down. The best opposite strategy to locking down is to intensify the public health measures short of locking down.
'If you can do that well, you don't have to take that step... which has so many implications both psychologically and economically.

America's largest states still have lower infection rates than the major economies of Western Europe, despite their growing COVID-19 outbreaks, while the burden on US hospitals is also rising but less severe.
Weekly infection rates per 100,000 people in California (108), Texas (198), New York (117) and Florida (131) are significantly lower than in the UK (235), Spain (298), Italy (378) or France (523), and similar to Germany (151).
However, America's worst-hit states in the Midwest are seeing higher rates still, including Wisconsin (735), Iowa (889) and North Dakota (1,190).
Much of Europe is now back in lockdown, with Britain and France imposing month-long stay-at-home orders, and Germany closing bars and restaurants.

 

So far my 79 yo mother has mild symptoms and is improving. We, her children, are really quite concerned, but her symptoms are improved, and she's being difficult. My concern increased when I read the following FB post from my home town in ND.

Thank you to all who have been praying for mom and dad. They tested positive for COVID-19 on 10/27 & 10/29. Symptoms started mild and there were ups and down in the recovery process, but it seemed they were both getting better. Things turned in the opposite direction Sunday evening and my dad was flown to ICU in Fargo. We could not be more thankful for the phenomenal care he has received, and he is improving.

My mom waited all day Monday to be ambulanced and admitted in Fargo, but there was no bed to be had. I was devastated, but after reviewing the care she would have received inpatient in Fargo we realized we could accomplish that here. This would never have been the case pre-COVID, I’ve never heard of a patient needing to be ambulanced only to be told there is no hospital bed available. There was ONE ICU bed open in Fargo and thankfully mom was not sick enough to need that. Again, thankful and blessed that the local hospital was able to set us up with home oxygen and IV antibiotics so we can treat her here.

Dad has been texting us and is not intubated. He was able to call me yesterday when the doctors came in to make rounds. Mom and I were on speakerphone and that was the first time we have been able to receive any report or update on his care. Again, this is a great thing as it means we didn’t need to be contacted for major or hard decisions. After we were able to receive the update on dad and ask questions I asked the doctors if there is anything we could be doing for them or dad from a distance. This is the urgent message we heard:
· The hospitals are in a dire situation from the hospital bed perspective, they are running out of nurses, doctors, lab techs and people who care for our sick COVID patients.
· People need to crucially reconsider their Thanksgiving plans, stop gathering in groups, mask up if you are going out to the grocery store.
· The only way we can help the bed and staff shortage is for everyone to understand that this is real and serious.
· She said if my dad wouldn’t have gotten medical care he would have died.
· They are afraid very soon they will be facing the inability to give medical care to people in a timely way and they will die.
· The medical facilities are at a crucial crucial juncture right now and it’s really important that the community understands that.
· The one doctor caring for my dad yesterday said she is usually working in a clinic and has been pulled over to the hospital because of the dire need. Nurses are also being pulled from every other area to care for hospitalized patients because they are running out of staff.
· At some point they are going to have to pull all of the staff out of the clinic and close the clinic.
My dad broke down after they left and said, “it breaks your heart when you hear what you hear from inside here.” More people are going out in body bags than alive. He hears the chopper going all day and all night. The nurses and doctors are exhausted and working unlimited extra shifts to cover and care for these patients. He can’t believe how blessed he is to be alive and alert at this point. THIS IS REAL AND IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW RIGHT HERE IN ND.

I can’t do much to help my dad right now, but I can decide to stay socially distanced, wear a mask, and not gather in groups. I bet you can do that too.

Ponder this---what if it’s you or your loved one who is in the situation my dad was in on Sunday and now there is no bed for them?

Would you reconsider your actions right now if that could prevent the need for hospitalization? We are the only ones who can help change the direction this virus is going in ND. I just thank God that mom has been able to get the treatment she needs here and the fact that they couldn’t get a bed for her does not mean she is one of the people who will die from this awful virus.

 

The only way we can help the bed and staff shortage is for everyone to understand that this is real and serious...

I will take Covid seriously when someone tells me when I can stop taking it seriously. Remember "two weeks to flatten the curve"?

I am sorry for your folks -- and am happy they are in recovery -- but Wuhan is here to stay.

The only question is: what kind of lives do we choose to lead from this point forward?

 

I don't see the use in an infection rate figure because there are too many variables like the wind speed. I didn't realize there was a covid thread here, lately I've been participating at https://www.liker.com/groups/103. One of my favorite references (after a couple months of reading other things about it) is https://www.bluezones.com/2020/06/c...op-epidemiologist-who-predicted-the-pandemic/ So I was thrilled when Biden announced that Osterholm was going to be part of his program. I was a low level grunt in academia for enough decades to appreciate people who know what they're talking about.

In the beginning denial worked, a lot of people were buried without knowing what they died of. Putting a bunch of people together indoors is the worst idea, if they're talking or singing (bar or church or school) it's even worse. The aerosols involved that float around in the air and carry the virus seem roughly like: If you do something like spray paint the underside of your car and you're at it for an hour or so, indoors, your nose hairs even become the color you're painting. That's what those covid aerosols are like (duh, that's why they're called aerosol cans). It's like fog except there's much less of it. You can't see them but they're present whenever an infected person exhales. The 6 foot rule is because a certain percentage will fall to the ground before they float through the air that far (assuming everyone is standing). But wind currents or even a thermal from a candle or cigarette can boost it back up in the air and it can travel farther. You have to think about the physics. Outdoors they mostly dissipate in the wind except in huge crowds (more people spewing and more people inhaling).

So when I see politicians who don't understand how it travels making up generalizations that other people learn by rote, then they preach it to somebody else it's easier to understand how it's out of control. Try a computer model of fog that you can introduce wind currents into and watch what happens to the fog. And I'm lucky enough to live where it's 1/4 mile to the next house, I avoid even small towns. You don't know who's infected, they may not even know, it's a crap shoot. Misinformation is even more common than the virus. There are officially 0 cases in the little town I live in, I've left a handful of times since February.

 

There are officially 0 cases in the little town I live in...

Quick! Lock yourselves all down before this stops being the case!