Coil, 1 Turn @ 100ma vs 4 Turns @ 25ma: Same?

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Wingsy

Joined Dec 18, 2016
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Does a 1-turn coil with 100ma through it generate the same magnetic field as the same size coil with 4 turns at 25ma?

I know you want to know why I'm asking this. In my GPS-WWVB project I have a 4 turn coil acting as an antenna for the 60KHz carrier. At least my prototype had a 4-turn coil. My final project's antenna used a 100-ft 4-conductor phone cable with RJ11s on each, and it was wired at the connector ends to jump one conductor to another so that all 4 conductors were part of the coil. I just noticed that the RJ11 connectors on each end of the cable were reversed from each other - the result being that I had only 1 turn in the coil. I can't tell any difference in performance between the prototype coil of 4 turns and the final one with 1 turn, but I'm curious to know if it really is the same power level.

Edit: There's more. Looking carefully at the crossover wiring at the connector ends, the reversed connectors also resulted in 2 (of the 4) of the conductors connected to form a 2-turn shorted coil and one (out of 4) of the conductors being a 1-turn shorted coil. All within the sheath of the phone cable, i.e., really close together. Wonder what effect THAT would have on the field strength.
 
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DickCappels

Joined Aug 21, 2008
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Yes, if everything else is held constant. This shows that magnetic field strength H is proportional to the number of turns N and current I.
 

DickCappels

Joined Aug 21, 2008
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For a static (DC) field a shorted turn would have no effect. As the frequency increases from zero the shorted turn would induce a magnetic field that tends to cancel the field from the driven coil, the amount of cancellation depending upon the geometric relationship between the two coils and the frequency.
 
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