CMOS chip. How to store data in this chip after power off?

schmitt trigger

Joined Jul 12, 2010
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From the webpage you attached, italics are mine.
“The main processor / controller is a TC Applied Technologies TCD2220 Dice Jr., with the associated 64Mbit (8Mbyte) K4S641632N RAM chip, and an EON EN29LV160AB 16Mbit (2Mbyte) flash storage chip for the firmware and settings.”

Flash memory doesn’t require power to store the memory contents. It is intrinsically non-volatile. Something else is going on here.
 

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777funk

Joined Apr 13, 2010
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From the webpage you attached, italics are mine.
“The main processor / controller is a TC Applied Technologies TCD2220 Dice Jr., with the associated 64Mbit (8Mbyte) K4S641632N RAM chip, and an EON EN29LV160AB 16Mbit (2Mbyte) flash storage chip for the firmware and settings.”

Flash memory doesn’t require power to store the memory contents. It is intrinsically non-volatile. Something else is going on here.
Thank you! I know so little about computer type electronics that I wouldn't know where to look. I may try keeping the 3.3V supply active with a battery after power down and see what happens. I wish the manufacturer would have made the device to hold the config after power down but such is not the case.
 

panic mode

Joined Oct 10, 2011
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RAM is fast and free to access but data is not retained through power down.
EEPROM or FLASH are retaining data though power off periods but write times are slow and cause wear. so after sufficient numbers of writes, parts of those ICs may no longer hold the values. this is why you need to read the datasheet and get familiar with specs.

some products are only good for about 5000 write cycles and after that - they toast. this is the case of RDC boards for KUKA robots from 90s (KRC1 controllers). later RDC boards use ICs with newer technology and much longer write endurance (100000 writes or so). today you can find products that have higher endurance.

also there are other technologies like FRAM
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Battery backed RAM memory has been used in a number of scanner radios for many years. It is also used in many personal computers, and video cameras.
BUT a personal stereo system, adding a backup battery involves circuit changes will certainly involve more than just adding a battery.
This is why my choice will always be equipment with knobs instead of menus.
 

schmitt trigger

Joined Jul 12, 2010
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Not only that, but fiddling with knobs and switches is sooooooo satisfying!
Turning the knobs and feeling the strong detent and listening to the “tok-tok-tok” as it rotates.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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Not only that, but fiddling with knobs and switches is sooooooo satisfying!
Turning the knobs and feeling the strong detent and listening to the “tok-tok-tok” as it rotates.
I am by no means "a Knob Junky", but in many instances having a device think that it knows what I want to do next is rather irritating. And today I may want my music a little louder than I did today. Or possibly not.
 
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