Can someone help me get this part to simulate in lt-Spice

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mike _Jacobs

Joined Jun 9, 2021
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As requested. Please post your asc file, so that we can all sing from the same hymn-sheet.
This is the file with it not working.

If you give D1 and C2 seperate grounds , it works.

Take a look a post up where i posted the working and none working version with the arrows pointing to the ground connection showing it not working in one and then working in another
 

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ericgibbs

Joined Jan 29, 2010
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hi mike,
The way you have drawn the wire link from the diode to the capacitor it is not connected at the C2 point
Also, you need the K1 L1 L2 1 on the circuit.

I don't have your Schottky diode, it is an equivalent.

Try this asc file
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ericgibbs

Joined Jan 29, 2010
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hi mike,
The two inductors are mutually coupled when using K1 L1 L2 1
The '1' indicates the coupling is 100%, or say 0.5 =50%.

Its in the LTS Help files

Did mjy asc file work OK?

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mike _Jacobs

Joined Jun 9, 2021
223
hi mike,
The two inductors are mutually coupled when using K1 L1 L2 1
The '1' indicates the coupling is 100%, or say 0.5 =50%.

Its in the LTS Help files

Did mjy asc file work OK?

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Thanks, mine works but yours works better.

I dont understand the mututal inductance thing. These are two inductors in series. If you go buy the recommended part from digi key from the data sheet its

DRQ74-330
https://www.digikey.com/en/products...7312?s=N4IgTCBcDaIAQBEBKBFA7AFgLQGYcAYQBdAXyA

This is not a transformer its two inductors. So why am i specifying mutual inductance in the sim?
 

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mike _Jacobs

Joined Jun 9, 2021
223
Thanks, mine works but yours works better.

I dont understand the mututal inductance thing. These are two inductors in series. If you go buy the recommended part from digi key from the data sheet its

DRQ74-330
https://www.digikey.com/en/products...7312?s=N4IgTCBcDaIAQBEBKBFA7AFgLQGYcAYQBdAXyA

This is not a transformer its two inductors. So why am i specifying mutual inductance in the sim?
ok guess i screwed up
Looking at that part again, it is a little transformer
So this is what makes it a flyback, the isolation.

Is there a way to negate the isolation if you dont need it?
Or could you help me pick an easier part to deal with?
I dont need flyback but i need a little converter like this that i can generate -12V from
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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They don't specify the mutual coupling between the two windings, but it is likely very similar to a standard transformers of that size.
 

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mike _Jacobs

Joined Jun 9, 2021
223
hi,
The Voltage Input and Outputs are not isolated.
What is your design requirement.?
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I dont have a design isolation requirement. I just need something that will generate a -12V rail with as little as 5V input.
~50mA current at -12V
But i dont want to get into flybacks and magnetics if i can help it.
 

Ian0

Joined Aug 7, 2020
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The circuit shown is a Čuk converter. It will work with two separate inductors or with coupled inductors. It works best with inductors that are badly coupled, such as two windings each occupying 180° of a toroid, with K about 0.9
 
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