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ronv

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It's a philosophical question and as such has no proven answer.
Sorry, didn't mean to laugh at your impeccable source. :D
 

joeyd999

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It's a philosophical question and as such has no proven answer.
This statement doesn't even make sense. A philosophy, for better or worse, is something one possesses to guide his life. It's not a question of prove or disprove. You got one, whether you realize it or not.

The only question is: Is a particular philosophy moral or immoral? I claim (as does Ayn Rand) that a philosophy of rational self-interest is moral, and one of altruism is immoral. Unless you can logically refute this statement, mine, and Ayn's stands.

Sorry, didn't mean to laugh at your impeccable source. :D
Yet more of the ad hominems.
 

ronv

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This statement doesn't even make sense. A philosophy, for better or worse, is something one possesses to guide his life. It's not a question of prove or disprove. You got one, whether you realize it or not.

The only question is: Is a particular philosophy moral or immoral? I claim (as does Ayn Rand) that a philosophy of rational self-interest is moral, and one of altruism is immoral. Unless you can logically refute this statement, mine, and Ayn's stands.



Yet more of the ad hominems.
But, you see you can only claim. You can never prove.
It's like saying the Methodists are happier than the Baptists.
 

joeyd999

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But, you see you can only claim. You can never prove.
It's like saying the Methodists are happier than the Baptists.
Philosophy != religion.

Please try to understand the difference prior to making such asinine statements.

Their are logical underpinnings to the claim "a philosophy of rational self-interest is moral," and Ayn Rand has done a fine job expressing -- and logically proving -- them. If you can show where the logic is in error, you will have shown the claim to be false. To do this, though, you will first need to understand what is meant by 'rational self-interest', and 'moral', and what it means to be and to think, and why. This is something I cannot help you with here, but you are welcome to go and investigate. I've provided plenty of links.
 

ronv

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So, ad hominem is your logical argument?

Perhaps you can provide a summary of Objectivism and an argument as to where it is in error?

So cite the 'evidence' of whether objectivism worked for Ayn Rand, or did she die penniless on Social Security with MedicAid paying for her cancer treatments (that she got from smoking, which is an incidental argument against social libertarianism as well)
She also never would have made it out of Russia without huge assistance from her mother. Hers was a hypocritical life.
 
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