Blown diode

Irving

Joined Jan 30, 2016
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Here's the updated cct based on what we now know... D4 is indeed a transient suppressor, to catch nasty spikes from the alternator/voltage regulator. Do you have the part #, I cant read it off the photo.

I definitely think your original VR went faulty, which over-volted the board, causing D4 to go s/c until it melted off, leaving U1 at the mercy of the extra voltage and frying it, and sadly probably the main processor as well.

When the original board went faulty what were the circumstances, what was going on at the time?

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Irving

Joined Jan 30, 2016
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I don't think the problem is external now. There are no outputs from this board, all the connections are inputs with the exception of the K-line diagnostic connector serial interface which is bidirectional. All the inputs are 12v/0v switches and appear to be protected by large series resistors.
 

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Yoshi3

Joined Jul 15, 2021
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"Then measure voltage between pin 1 (red probe) and pin 4 (black) on the 51a 8-legged chip. Should be either 3.3v or 5v"
Are you able to show me?
 

Irving

Joined Jan 30, 2016
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"Then measure voltage between pin 1 (red probe) and pin 4 (black) on the 51a 8-legged chip. Should be either 3.3v or 5v"
Are you able to show me?
Sure.. see pic.
  • Put your multimeter on 20 DCV range.
  • Put your black probe on the little hole indicated by the black arrow. Note that the board is covered in a light insulating laquer so make sure you're getting a good metal to metal contact.
  • Put the red probe on the pin indicated by the red arrow. This should read approx 12v depending on how charged the battery is. Now put your red probe on the pin indicated by the green arrow (or in one of the two little holes to the left), What voltage do you get?
  • If you get no voltage reading on the green arrow pin, put your multimeter on diode setting, and try again. Do you get OL, 0v or approx 0.5v? Now swap probes over, do you get OL, 0v or approx 0.5v?

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Yoshi3

Joined Jul 15, 2021
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Black on black & red on green on diode setting = 034, black on green & red on black = 002 & alarm on meter
 

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Yoshi3

Joined Jul 15, 2021
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That was on the board with the missing diode. Next board 0v at all & on diode setting black on black etc = 417, & swapped =1117
 

Irving

Joined Jan 30, 2016
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That was on the board with the missing diode. Next board 0v at all & on diode setting black on black etc = 417, & swapped =1117
That's because the diode is in backwards, need to remove it before doing that test again. There might be hope for board 2. I have a feeling board 1 may be beyond economical repair...

Whereabouts in the world are you?
 

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Yoshi3

Joined Jul 15, 2021
48
That's because the diode is in backwards, need to remove it before doing that test again. There might be hope for board 2. I have a feeling board 1 may be beyond economical repair...

Whereabouts in the world are you?
Suffolk
 

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Yoshi3

Joined Jul 15, 2021
48
When the original board went faulty what were the circumstances, what was going on at the time? Earth lead wasn't
Here's the updated cct based on what we now know... D4 is indeed a transient suppressor, to catch nasty spikes from the alternator/voltage regulator. Do you have the part #, I cant read it off the photo.

I definitely think your original VR went faulty, which over-volted the board, causing D4 to go s/c until it melted off, leaving U1 at the mercy of the extra voltage and frying it, and sadly probably the main processor as well.

When the original board went faulty what were the circumstances, what was going on at the time?

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When the original board went faulty what were the circumstances, what was going on at the time?
Here's the updated cct based on what we now know... D4 is indeed a transient suppressor, to catch nasty spikes from the alternator/voltage regulator. Do you have the part #, I cant read it off the photo.

I definitely think your original VR went faulty, which over-volted the board, causing D4 to go s/c until it melted off, leaving U1 at the mercy of the extra voltage and frying it, and sadly probably the main processor as well.

When the original board went faulty what were the circumstances, what was going on at the time?" negative side of battery was taken off for some reason (yet to establish why) when reconnected speedo didn't work

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"When the original board went faulty what were the circumstances, what was going on at the time?
 

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Yoshi3

Joined Jul 15, 2021
48
Now diode has been reversed Black on black &
Red on red = 11.48v
Black on black & red on green = 0.93v battery is at 11.95v
 

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Yoshi3

Joined Jul 15, 2021
48
The battery was removed for charging after being left unused for awhile when earth was attached the speedo went on then off
 

Irving

Joined Jan 30, 2016
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Hmmm reconnecting the battery earth lead shouldn't have caused an issue. I'm assuming the engine wasn't running at the time? And no one had tried to use the kick-start while battery was disconnected?
 
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