And now for something weird...

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
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Well, what I read there is,.....they thought there was a climate emergency. And it was their intention to appease the weather. That's what they imply in the article. I don't think we understand older generations as well as thought. It could be something different. Llamas make it puzzling.

They warred with the Incas and I'm sure other tribes. They might have been slave children from around their territory.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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Archeologists hypothesize that it was to appease the gods sending extreme rain during that season...
Many such 'Civilizations' have done this over the centuries, all in the name of religion of some kind, Humans have always found it hard to believe that much of their fate, lot in life, final destiny is due to pure chance and the whims of nature, therefore the gods must be appeased.;)
Max.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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Archeologists hypothesize that it was to appease the gods sending extreme rain during that season...
Yeah, I saw that. I can understand that desperation was the likely root cause of the event, but the story is probably much richer than that. There may have been class warfare and racism involved and who knows what else. I find the concurrent sacrifice of the llamas makes this event somehow more inexplicable. Maybe they knew they could not feed them (or the kids)? We may never know what thinking was behind this event.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Yeah, I saw that. I can understand that desperation was the likely root cause of the event, but the story is probably much richer than that. There may have been class warfare and racism involved and who knows what else. I find the concurrent sacrifice of the llamas makes this event somehow more inexplicable. Maybe they knew they could not feed them (or the kids)? We may never know what thinking was behind this event.
What's particularly terrible about this, is that this event took place in one single session ... I can't imagine the horror of such scene...
 

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
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The people that study this always say stuff like this. If they had no crops for a few years it would be no problem and I'm sure there were use to it. These olden people weren't near as stupid as surmised. Add hard cruelty and living with death daily, does not make one fear weather.

In fact many were probably looking forward to it. It's a great excuse to rape and pillage for a few years. Farm work ain't fun. For the effort of living back then.....war was worth the risk.

South America was the bloodiest place on earth. We are just starting to crack the history of it open.
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
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Prior starting the usual summer campaign, our vessel was vacated and a specialized team, fumigated all spaces completely, throwing kind of cyanide (?) pills, taking precautions to ensure a safe "escape route" for them. They had to work quite fast for that, proceeding from bottom spaces to main deck.

After some 48 hours, the ship was exhaustively ventilated and few days later we left to Ushuaia. Heading South, when crossing the Drake Passage to Antarctica, I couldn't ignore the smell anymore. Inside the duct, just two meters away of the ventilation duct, there was the rat.
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
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South America was the bloodiest place on earth. We are just starting to crack the history of it open.
I tend to suspect that most cultures around the globe lived similar process, call it riots, wars, famine, genocide, epidemic, etc.
The difference is that to learn about a specific one, very old, you need to read about in arcane obscure history books, sometimes, with not much details available. Authors in the last two centuries seem to have made lot of them "closer" to us and for others you could simply ask your parents. For the rest, you watch CNN or equivalent.
 

BR-549

Joined Sep 22, 2013
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My comments weren't meant to be insulting or derogatory. Without considering academic theory......or opinion.....or verbal history.......Just the physical evidence of structure and art......shows the world....many SA cultures lived with regular human sacrifice like no other place found.

That fact.......has no bearing in today's world. It's just history. It's their history, not ours. We are making ours.....and I am sure the future will complain about it.

For instance...I have been told that in this generation, there is more slavery now.....than ever before. They must hide it well. I have never seen a slave and don't know people who have.

We wouldn't dare to judge ourselves, and if we did...we would have self justifiable excuses....so we shouldn't judge another generation.

And I never watch CNN.
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
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My comments weren't meant to be insulting or derogatory. Without considering academic theory......or opinion.....or verbal history.......Just the physical evidence of structure and art......shows the world....many SA cultures lived with regular human sacrifice like no other place found.

That fact.......has no bearing in today's world. It's just history. It's their history, not ours. We are making ours.....and I am sure the future will complain about it.

For instance...I have been told that in this generation, there is more slavery now.....than ever before. They must hide it well. I have never seen a slave and don't know people who have.

We wouldn't dare to judge ourselves, and if we did...we would have self justifiable excuses....so we shouldn't judge another generation.

And I never watch CNN.
Hola BR

Just tried to express what I've realized when I was a young student at school. Usually I do not qualify other people comments. Rest assured.

BTW, human sacrifices as a tribute to some deity/ies gets references in many moments in history. Isn't a holy book somewhere (vaguely recall reading it as a kid) where one of the characters was about to kill his son to please :oops: his god? Found that horrifyng thus hard to understand since it was shown as a good attitude. :(

When at the hotel in Panamá, waiting for my next vessel to go on board and replace the Master, I was watching precisely CNN at the moment the bombing over Bagdad started. Never watched CNN again and some 9 years ago I stopped watching TV altogether.

My digression ends here.
 
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