And now for something weird...

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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Old days? still the cheaper way to go for large storage needs today. Still good today I guess.
kv
Back when I started, the only large storage option was several boxes of IBM punched cards!

Not as fine art a s ascii, but baudot did produce some decent pictures.
There used to be kiosks in the shopping centers that could take your picture (or you and your girlfriend), print it as ASCII art on transfer paper and make a T-shirt from it.
 

killivolt

Joined Jan 10, 2010
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Back when I started, the only large storage option was several boxes of IBM punched cards!
Do you remember what language was used? I can't remember but, I think those were Fortran or Unix. I've spoken to a few IBM programmers I can't remember what it was.

I'm getting old:(

kv
 

djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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Do you remember what language was used? I can't remember but, I think those were Fortran or Unix. I've spoken to a few IBM programmers I can't remember what it was.

I'm getting old:(

kv
It was Fortran. I had written an artificial intelligence program to differentiate and identify between 3D shapes. The program was about 2/3 box of cards (a box of cards was a standard measure as all boxes were the same size). The only way to input the program was via keypunched cards . I "manually" scanned the data and keypunched them on even more cards, which took up another box.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
16,330
Do you remember what language was used? I can't remember but, I think those were Fortran or Unix. I've spoken to a few IBM programmers I can't remember what it was.

I'm getting old:(

kv
We used punch card decks for all sorts of things, machine language boot loaders for communications devices (autodin) or even cryptographic key cards for devices.


You could install a key with a plug-board (sucks)

Or you could use the same key on a Hollerith card.
 
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djsfantasi

Joined Apr 11, 2010
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The IBM 1130 had two system punch cards. One was a cold boot loader, the other was used for a warm start. They usually were punched on pink and green cards and kept in a bin on the side of the card reader. There were often several cards in case one didn't work.

At one site, a clever programmer (?) had programmed several cards with a different program and replaced most of the cards in the bin with his version, on pink and green cards of course.

When something happened that required a boot, the operator would grab a card and run it through the reader. Most of the time, it was one of the faux cards.

Instead of booting the 1130, the bogus program initialized the modified IBM Selectric typewriter which was used as a console. Then it went into a tight, infinite loop and printed on the console, "Ha! That was not a boot card."

The operator had to feed the remaining cards, one by one, through the reader until he found the boot card. He would attempt to discard the bad cards, but some remained in the stack. And new ones would be added by the Masked Programmer!
 

GopherT

Joined Nov 23, 2012
8,009
The IBM 1130 had two system punch cards. One was a cold boot loader, the other was used for a warm start. They usually were punched on pink and green cards and kept in a bin on the side of the card reader. There were often several cards in case one didn't work.

At one site, a clever programmer (?) had programmed several cards with a different program and replaced most of the cards in the bin with his version, on pink and green cards of course.

When something happened that required a boot, the operator would grab a card and run it through the reader. Most of the time, it was one of the faux cards.

Instead of booting the 1130, the bogus program initialized the modified IBM Selectric typewriter which was used as a console. Then it went into a tight, infinite loop and printed on the console, "Ha! That was not a boot card."

The operator had to feed the remaining cards, one by one, through the reader until he found the boot card. He would attempt to discard the bad cards, but some remained in the stack. And new ones would be added by the Masked Programmer!
No wonder H1B Visa programmers are so popular! Those guys don't dare to pull funny crap like that.
 

JoeJester

Joined Apr 26, 2005
4,390
United couldn't book in advance for their high priority crew? Shame on them. Overbooking just bit their ass hard ... But ... A much bigger chunk is yet to come.

It would have been cheaper to hire a small plane for their employees.
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
7,830

This really should have been its own thread since it is an interesting topic of discussion.

On one hand the passenger was being totally belligerent. I can understand the protest and all but, wow, when the gorillas show up to haul you off, it is time to give in and just live to fight another day. Really not worth getting a broken face over.

On the other hand, what on earth was United thinking? I don't care if they needed to move crew. The paying passengers should always get first choice over airline employees, regardless of the fall out that might occur. It was the airline's fault for not moving employees in plenty of time to make their next obligation.

This over booking needs to be put to an end. I would love to see really stiff penalties. No vouchers that you may never get to use but cold hard cash should be the penalty to the airline. $100 then double it every hour past your original flight time. Maybe even force airlines to charter a flight in an otherwise over night stay is required.
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
6,319
Maybe no. The pilot has the right to eject a passenger for any reason. Assuming the plane is on the ground that is. ;)
And a passenger has a right not to get his face bashed in by the hired help.

Besides, they put him back on the plane... his offense could not have been that grievous.
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
7,830
And a passenger has a right not to get his face bashed in by the hired help.

Besides, they put him back on the plane... his offense could not have been that grievous.

I'm not disagreeing with you. But the courts might say otherwise. If I was the judge, I would stick it to United but then again I am not the judge.
 
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