In this case it's not Snake Oil but good engineering for extra net power with a scientific basis for that improvement. In material science we make this trade-off all the time with throughput of material processing at the expense of raw inputs like electrical power and process chemical use.

There is not a lot of info on the killerchiller link you posted.

But from what I read, it seems they're pre-chilling water that is then cooling the intercooler during the run. The compressor does not operate during wide-open throttle.

 

A little extra info.

 

In this case it's not Snake Oil but good engineering for extra net power with a scientific basis for that improvement. In material science we make this trade-off all the time with throughput of material processing at the expense of raw inputs like electrical power and process chemical use.

I've been working on turbocharged diesel engines for a few years now, and a chiller radiator that pre-cools the air prior to intake is an indispensable component if efficiency is to be maintained at competitive levels.

 

...and a chiller radiator that pre-cools the air prior to intake is an indispensable component...

No argument.

The "debate" is about using a portion of the engine power to cool the intercooler.

 

No argument.

The "debate" is about using a portion of the engine power to cool the intercooler.

If there is a debate it's not about if the principle of engine driven AC intercooling can produce more net power from a ICE with a turbo/supercharger, it's only about if the Demon's system does. I see zero evidence it doesn't work on this specific engine system. Even without it the car is still worth more than that busted hunk of junk the kid was scalping.

 

No argument.

The "debate" is about using a portion of the engine power to cool the intercooler.

In my view, the debate should rather be how much of the engine's power can be used for the system.... that's where things get murky, since every engine has unique characteristics...

 

In my view, the debate should rather be how much of the engine's power can be used for the system.... that's where things get murky, since every engine has unique characteristics...

For a gasoline engine I would think the power usage of the system would be limited by detonation and pre-ignition. For detonation high octane racing fuel helps to a point as would retarding the ignition timing but eventually you will get to the detonation threshold if you keep increasing the density of the mixture by reducing temperature. That's when bad things happen.

 

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crew-called-own-station-response-time-exceptional

A Dunedin fire crew responded to a smoke alarm sounding at their own fire station this morning.

Fire and Emergency New Zealand spokeswoman Lyn Crosson said a Lookout Point crew was called to Lookout Point station just before 9.30am but stood down ''very quickly'' after they discovered the alarm was due to smoke coming from an oven.

''Something overcooked maybe.''

Crews were on scene within moments, she said.

''Our response time was exceptional''.

 

Lunar warming:

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/06/12/reason-moon-warmed-up-blame-astronauts.html

Scientists have finally figured out the reason behind a small but noticeable uptick in the temperature of the moon's subsurface while it was under study by astronauts of the Apollo missions in the 1970s.

 

Interesting. Thank you

 

Lunar warming:

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/06/12/reason-moon-warmed-up-blame-astronauts.html

Ha. ALW.

Is there nothing man can't do?

 

I guess the plants have finally had enough and are fighting back.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2018/...rmanent-blindness-discovered-in-virginia.html

It says only one person affected so far.

"The USDA Forest Service states pigs and cattle can eat it without apparent harm."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracleum_mantegazzianum

 

People down here went berserk after our team won 1-0 against Germany ... but even I'm surprised at the consequences of the celebration:

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/0...ke-back-in-mexico-city/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text

Supporters were reportedly so enthused by the match that it’s quite possible they started a minor earthquake in Mexico City.

 

 

People down here went berserk after our team won 1-0 against Germany ... but even I'm surprised at the consequences of the celebration:

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/0...ke-back-in-mexico-city/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text

Congratulations BTW!!

 

I guess the plants have finally had enough and are fighting back.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2018/...rmanent-blindness-discovered-in-virginia.html

It says only one person affected so far.

"The USDA Forest Service states pigs and cattle can eat it without apparent harm."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracleum_mantegazzianum

Shades of The Day Of The Triffids

 

 

Shades of The Day Of The Triffids

I’m always the only person in the room that remembers that movie! A classic.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-44532466

A man from the small village of Santa Teresa in Paraguay returned home after three days away to find his family mourning a body they thought was his.

 

Misadventure.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-44534102

Jack Gilbert, 23, Alberto Fresneda Carrasco, 19, and Harrison Scott-Hood, 23, were found dead on tracks near Loughborough Junction station on Monday.
Mr Carrasco's family said they were "painting graffiti late at night in a particularly dangerous place".
Mr Scott-Hood's parents said he was a "beautiful artist" and "kind man".
Mr Gilbert's family said the only solace they could find in his death was that "he died doing something he loved".
...
A tweet by former Transport for London (TfL) board member Brian Cooke described the dead men as "common scum who cost the railway millions and keep fares high".