And now for something weird...

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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It's the best water when you're drinking the kool-aid.
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2018/01/california_raw_water_fans_pay.html
When people in central Oregon's Madras, Culver and Metolius turn on their taps, untreated spring water flows forth. It costs them less than a penny per gallon.

A company in California buys that same water and sells it in big glass jugs for up to $8.60 a gallon around Los Angeles and San Francisco.
It's San Fransisco. Drinking raw water isn't the only risky behavior they participate. ;)
 
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nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/news/20180119/fight-over-cheesecake-portion-leads-to-arrest
The Moundville Times reported that Moundville Police Chief Toby Banks was called to a disturbance at a residence where the half-brothers live together at noon Dec. 26.

“Banks said he was asked for his opinion on whether the piece of cake was big enough for a grown (expletive) man,” the paper reported. “He said he thought it was.”

According to court records, the older brother, 24, was still holding the butcher knife he used to cut the dessert when they began arguing about the portion size. The victim told police his brother punched him in the face and busted his lip.
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Experts don’t recommend using a butcher knife to cut cheesecake. A sharp, thin-bladed slicing knife or a hollow-edged knife dipped in warm water reduces drag and makes a cleaner cut. Unscented dental floss is also recommended to get a clean cut.
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
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So what happens to the crew? Do they stay and sleep on board until the ice gives way? Do their duties and routines become lighter for the time being?
Currently she's here: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-73.543/centery:45.497/zoom:14

I would expect them to have very light duty but stay located on the ship. Some could go Temporary duty assignment for schools or to other commands. We were stuck in a few places due to breakdowns that required extensive maintenance. We would muster in the morning for assignments and generally be off the ship by lunch unless we had that days watch. There should be plenty of young things and bars in Montreal to keep them warm during the dark cold winter.
https://montreal.eater.com/maps/best-new-bars-cocktails-montreal
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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I can think of a lo of worse places to get iced in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Shackleton

Those sailors will have a blast in Montreal. Even in the winter time. ;)
You've just touched one of my favorite subjects, which is polar exploration. I've already read several books on the subject, and Mr Shackleton is definitely one of my heroes.

Check "The Last Place On Earth", which narrates the race for the south pole between Ambudsen and Scott... it's fascinating reading.
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
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You've just touched one of my favorite subjects, which is polar exploration.
Unless already read, you may find the books of Ken McGoogan interesting reading regarding seeking of the arctic N.W. passage, and the story of an unsung Canadian hero Dr John Rae, in particular the book about Franklin's wife, Lady Franklin and her public effort to discredit Rae for insinuating the survivors of the HMS Erebus and Terror resorted to cannibalism.
Max.
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
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Knowing how dangerous closed (non-ventilated) spaces in ships could be, first question that comes to mind is what was he doing inside there and who actually authorized his ingress to the space. Even with innocent looking cargoes you could run into troubles quite quickly. Have you ever seen finely shredded scrap? Or any cereal byproduct decomposed by water? Or just cereal that was fumigated at the loading port?
 

GopherT

Joined Nov 23, 2012
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Knowing how dangerous closed (non-ventilated) spaces in ships could be, first question that comes to mind is what was he doing inside there and who actually authorized his ingress to the space. Even with innocent looking cargoes you could run into troubles quite quickly. Have you ever seen finely shredded scrap? Or any cereal byproduct decomposed by water? Or just cereal that was fumigated at the loading port?
The emissions of certain fruits, grains and other "safe" items can cause issues for breathable air.

Any time a person enters a "vessel" with more than their arm OSHA requires a "vessel entry permit" where all people involved review the current situation, proper Protective equipment is assigned, inspected and donned. All valves for pipes in or out are locked out and, all contingency plans are reviewed for loss of power, loss of light, loss of air circulation and many other details.

It is all done from checklists to make sure nothing is missed.

It is a big deal and I ageee that someone was where they shouldn't have been.
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
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Knowing how dangerous closed (non-ventilated) spaces in ships could be, first question that comes to mind is what was he doing inside there and who actually authorized his ingress to the space. Even with innocent looking cargoes you could run into troubles quite quickly. Have you ever seen finely shredded scrap? Or any cereal byproduct decomposed by water? Or just cereal that was fumigated at the loading port?
No, but I've worked in farms. And know how dangerous silos can be... I can imagine a ship's storage areas are far more dangerous, due to their lack of ventilation and high humidity.
 
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