https://www.sciencenews.org/article/astronomers-say-time-start-taking-search-aliens-seriously

Finally, a group of respectful scientists is promoting a serious take on the search for e.t.:

The group is writing a series of papers arguing that scientists should be searching the universe for “technosignatures” — any sign of alien technology, from radio signals to waste heat.

 

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/astronomers-say-time-start-taking-search-aliens-seriously

Finally, a group of respectful scientists is promoting a serious take on the search for e.t.:

There are plenty of rich "UFO nut" private people willing to invest in this.
https://www.seti.org/ata

I don't want to see NASA spending time and energy on specialized systems designed just for these so called “technosignatures” because the odds are slim to nothing we have guessed right about what to actually search for beyond a very narrow slice of an intelligent species technology on this or any planet. Lets continue with basic science missions/projects and use the information from those to look for “technosignatures” .

 

Lets continue with basic science missions/projects and use the information from those to look for “technosignatures” .

That's a good idea, at least in the economic sense. But you'd still need to invest a basic amount of time and energy, even for that.

 

That's a good idea, at least in the economic sense. But you'd still need to invest a basic amount of time and energy, even for that.

Let the 'UFO' hunters pay for specialized reports from the general database. I don't want NASA paying for crackpot searches looking for things like Dyson Spheres.

 

Anything with a synthetic characteristic, would have already been detected. AND/OR will be detected without any more specialty. It does not need to be looked for.

It's that simple.

 

Let the 'UFO' hunters pay for specialized reports from the general database. I don't want NASA paying for crackpot searches looking for things like Dyson Spheres.

Never mind the Dyson Spheres, what about simple radio signals? (although I once read that a civilization's detectable radio activity is thought to last only a couple of centuries, because when migration happens from analog to digital, the digital signals will most likely be compressed or scrambled for security reasons, and that would be indistinguishable from noise). The only requirement to analyze that is a few scientists trained in the mathematical aspects of artificial emissions (and possibly a little access to supercomputing tech). How much money can that cost, especially considering the potential repercussions?

This sort of thing qualifies as "crackpot" as long as nothing remains discovered... but when it happens (and for me, the question is not "if"), I wonder what historians will have to say about the scientific community's general attitude towards this subject.

 

If aliens come, it will probably be un-anounced or un-detected. Because we have never seen of such with radio or light..........they would probably have a different and un-realized technology.

 

This sort of thing qualifies as "crackpot" as long as nothing remains discovered... but when it happens (and for me, the question is not "if"), I wonder what historians will have to say about the scientific community's general attitude towards this subject.

I think history will record that almost nothing changed after the discovery because it's likely to be another race at about the same level (limited time for radio discovery) as us and just about everyone on the planet thinks it's a 'when, not if' too.

 

I think history will record that almost nothing changed after the discovery because it's likely to be another race at about the same level (limited time for radio discovery) as us and just about everyone on the planet thinks it's a 'when, not if' too.

a agree with you, in part ... nothing will change in practical terms, I think ... but people's attitude towards life itself will be seriously challenged, and I'm not saying that in a biological sense.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/science/har...-spacecraft-tech-is-flying-past-jupiter-orbit

 

https://www.foxnews.com/science/har...-spacecraft-tech-is-flying-past-jupiter-orbit

“Oumuamua is not an alien spaceship, and the authors of the paper insult honest scientific inquiry to even suggest it,” Ohio State University astrophysicist Paul M. Sutter wrote in a tweet.

 

Tgis has long been my hypothesis as well:

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/zoo-hypothesis-may-explain-why-we-haven-t-seen-any-ncna988946

They’ve kept their distance not because we’re imperfect, but because of our right to pursue our own destiny. Diversity is something that everyone in the cosmos is assumed to value, so life-bearing worldsshould be left to their own evolutionary development.

 

Tgis has long been my hypothesis as well:

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/zoo-hypothesis-may-explain-why-we-haven-t-seen-any-ncna988946

If you are interested in this topic, this lecture might be interesting:

Astrobiology and the Search for Extraterrestrial Life - with Ian Crawford

 

https://www.philly.com/news/nation-...s-ufos-navy-document-encounters-20190424.html

A recent uptick in sightings of unidentified flying objects — or, as the military calls them, “unexplained aerial phenomena” — prompted the U.S. Navy to draft formal procedures for pilots to document encounters, a corrective measure that former officials say is long overdue.

“Since 2014, these intrusions have been happening on a regular basis,” Joseph Gradisher, spokesman for the deputy chief of naval operations for information warfare, told the Washington Post on Wednesday. Recently, unidentified aircraft entered military-designated airspace as often as multiple times per month. “We want to get to the bottom of this. We need to determine who’s doing it, where it’s coming from, and what their intent is. We need to try to find ways to prevent it from happening again.”

 

This is really confusing. And it needs to be answered. I know the training and the caliber of naval aviators. It can not be dismissed without explanation.

I can never get enough context of the "supposed" evidence of those military films.

As far as I could ever see.......it could be just a change in a reflection........and that would account for the high speed, high angle turns and accelerations.

And without any doc. on any previous observed movements like these, I would look for some other factor, before considering alien life, for that could only explain it, right?

I mean.....if it is determined, that it's a real physical object........then either alien life......or new physics.

I have trouble with both. And I would probably go with physics first.



Edit: Like shooting the moon with a laser that can be seen on earth........then flicking it all around the moon........and then saying nothing natural or manmade moves like that. Like super dot velocities and turns on the moon.

I would look for something out of kilter.......from a normal observation.

An apparent UFO.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-p...rk-times-military-unidentified-flying-object/

In another instance, one pilot told Lt. Graves that he "almost hit one of those things" and that he described it as looking "like a sphere encasing a cube."

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-p...rk-times-military-unidentified-flying-object/

Lt. Graves and his fellow pilots told the newspaper that "the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew.

The fact these 'things' can go hypersonic in the thick lower earth's atmosphere with no thermal effects on the 'craft' tells me they are likely non-physical (EM and/or IR imaging effects).

 

Lt. Graves and his fellow pilots told the newspaper that "the video showed objects accelerating to hypersonic speed, making sudden stops and instantaneous turns — something beyond the physical limits of a human crew.

The fact these 'things' can go hypersonic in the thick lower earth's atmosphere with no thermal effects on the 'craft' tells me they are likely non-physical (EM and/or IR imaging effects).

I agree ... but it must be an extremely complex visual phenomena, the way they described it ...

 

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/ufo-videos-real-navy-acknowledges

"What the pilots encountered that day was able to perform in ways that defied all logic and our current understanding of aerodynamics,"

 

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/ufo-videos-real-navy-acknowledges

Same stuff different day. Nothing new in that report. Most likely an artifact from the IR image processing system (the videos are synthetic sensor data) interacting with odd atmospheric conditions. It seems physically impossible for actual objects to move like the tracking systems displays.