I think I actually agree with his statement. The human race has been around for thousands of years, and we are no better off now than when we started. We still kill others over simple emotions like hate, jealousy, and pride. There really is nothing to stop us from annihilating ourselves. Personally, I don't think the humans will exist much longer. The actual amount of time, though, is a mystery. We'll only know it when it comes. I do feel that if we don't learn how to control ourselves soon, the human race will indeed go extinct in a relatively short period of time. I hate being the one to say this, but sadly, I honestly think it is true.I don't want to sound as though I'm being contiguously argumentative with you but I disagree with you here too.
I agree somewhat.I wouldn't discount life on other planets nor would I discount the religious stories. The details (time line) may have been written for the commoners concepts, for them to understand, at the time they were written.
Sounds like you've been reading David Bohm.I for one, believe that life exists where ever it's possible. The question I have, is it considered life if it's energies are obtained away from the oxygen/carbon model. Our minds are made up of very simple chemical/electrical interactions, that could be taking place on scales other than within the confines of a brain mass. Is 'destiny' not the conscious decision of a larger form, of which we are embodied? Is our cranium the 'prison' of complete thought? Is it man's dilema that we see ourselves riding in little vehicles, exploring space, when all we have to do is connect with the lifeforce of the cosmos? Is it in death that we are freed, as we know that life confines us to the physical being.
The Safehold series of books by David Weber sort of touches on this concept as well.There are some who think that we are from another planet. I think its some kind of religion. had a roommate who kept talking about it. he believed in some wild stuff. had big series of books to back up his beliefs, but from my roommate's description the author was even more detached than my roommate.
Had all day to think about it. I remembered who it was he said:The Safehold series of books by David Weber sort of touches on this concept as well.
TOG: Are you talking about the Armageddon Reef series?
If so it was because we lost a war with a genocidal species, then fell victim to a megalomaniac psychiatrist. It wasn't supposed to go that way.
Love David Weber's work by the way, along with John Ringo and Jack Williamson's (the Freehold series).
Then again, if it happened any other way, we might not be talking about this anyway. In that case, it seems almost unavoidable that all this would happen....I would like to add that 'humanoid' type life on this planet took a very long and strange turn of events to produce. Had the multiple near planetwide extinctions not happened. Had a different species at any point survived the many extinctions and lived to procreate and evolve, we would not be here at all.
Sure individuals do kill, and societies will always contain a *small percentage* of individuals who kill and do other nasty crimes. But I think it is an error in logic to say that "we" kill, as I know I don't and you probably don't, and the vast majority of the population don't either.I think I actually agree with his statement. The human race has been around for thousands of years, and we are no better off now than when we started. We still kill others over simple emotions like hate, jealousy, and pride.
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Sure there is. Knowlege helps dissipate the hate and intolerance that was born from ignorance. Look at the Cuban missile crisis, it could easily have been nuclear war but two *knowlegable* men, the leaders on each side, knew what would happen if the situation escalated and they worked to stop mankind annihilating ourselves. That was a shining light for mankind, especially after the terrible immaturity of WW2....
There really is nothing to stop us from annihilating ourselves.
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We disagree for sure. There's not a lot of evidence historically that societies must annihilate themseves. Generally if a culture dies it is from old age, or slow changes over time, or moving on, or assimilation etc. And I think the more knowlegable we are (and are becoming) the more likely we might average out into one planet or one people, but the less likely we are to "annihilate" all humans forever....
Personally, I don't think the humans will exist much longer. The actual amount of time, though, is a mystery. We'll only know it when it comes. I do feel that if we don't learn how to control ourselves soon, the human race will indeed go extinct in a relatively short period of time. I hate being the one to say this, but sadly, I honestly think it is true.
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