7805 high output when connected to 12v input

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Are you certain you have 12v at the input terminal? Certain the ground pin is grounded? Do not assume just because it is connected. Perform voltage and continuity checks (make sure you turn the power off for that one ;) ).
 

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Big Sammy

Joined Jan 28, 2012
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And you are measuring the voltage across the load resistor?
hmm...not sure what you mean. I've put the resistor from the ground pin to the output pin...still measuring almost 11v on the output...
How do I make sure I'm measuring "across the load resistor"?
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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but it's not dropping any voltage...I'm still getting almost 11v on the output...

But it should be so hence it should be at least warm. And if you have 11V or so out you must have 12V in so at least check you ground and make certain it is connected. Though if it was not I would suspect 0v out.
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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hmm...not sure what you mean. I've put the resistor from the ground pin to the output pin...still measuring almost 11v on the output...
How do I make sure I'm measuring "across the load resistor"?

He means, are you measuring from the output pin to ground (across the resistor) ?
 

WBahn

Joined Mar 31, 2012
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hmm...not sure what you mean. I've put the resistor from the ground pin to the output pin...still measuring almost 11v on the output...
How do I make sure I'm measuring "across the load resistor"?
How are you measuring the output voltage? You have to leads from your voltmeter. Where, exactly, are you putting each of them?
 

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Big Sammy

Joined Jan 28, 2012
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I tried changing around the input/ground/output..doesn't make any difference on the voltage reading. I tried 5 different 7805 modules (all purchased at the same time on ebay)...same results. I tried using 9v input, and it still reads almost 9 volts. It's as if it isn't actually doing anything....
 

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Big Sammy

Joined Jan 28, 2012
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How are you measuring the output voltage? You have to leads from your voltmeter. Where, exactly, are you putting each of them?
I'm putting the red lead , which is plugged into the V.ohm, ma port to the output wire. black lead to ground.
 

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Big Sammy

Joined Jan 28, 2012
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Oddly enough, I went back in order to test things using a buck converter...tried the 7805 again, and they all worked. I didn't change anything as far as I know, but they were all reading 5.06 v. Strange things are afoot!! And yes, it did get really hot. Probably too much of a concern to use it in the project I have in mind. I want to light up an old staircase using a 12 v 5050 warm white led's (the strips that I can cut every 3 led's). There are 15 stairs, so I will have 15 segments of 3 led's. My goal is to have the lights triggered by an infrared sensor going across the top and bottom stair, which will be controlled by an Arduino. I didn't realize how hot the 7805's got....I would be worried about that kind of heat starting a fire!! So the buck converter, which doesn't seem to get hot, is probably a better option anyways...unless someone has a better option/soloution? (I want to run the 12v from the power source to the lights, but also convert to 5v to use to power the Arduino)
Thanks for everyone's help and input....I really do appreciate it. Although I love tinkering around with electronics, I have more desire than knowledge...but I'm working on that!!!
 

hp1729

Joined Nov 23, 2015
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Where did you get said 7805s? If you got them from eBay there is a chance they are not 7805s at all. They could simply be resistors or pretty much anything else.
It looks like he knows what he is doing. I have to second the notion of bogus chips.
 

Veracohr

Joined Jan 3, 2011
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Did you know the Arduino can handle 12V? It has an onboard regulator. It's a different pin than the 5V input, but it might eliminate your problem.
 

Kjeldgaard

Joined Apr 7, 2016
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A few measurements on a L7805CV from ST, shows the following output voltages:
Normal operation, 12 Volt input and two 100nF decoupling capacitors: 4.98 Volt
Floating GND on L7805CV and voltmeter as load: 11.5 Volt
Floating GND on L7805CV and 1 KΩ parallel with voltmeter: 8.5 Volt
 

DickCappels

Joined Aug 21, 2008
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Per Kjeldgaard's post above, the weirdness could be the result of an intermittent connection on your breadboard, and in particular an intermittent connection to the ground pin on the regulator.
 

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Big Sammy

Joined Jan 28, 2012
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A few measurements on a L7805CV from ST, shows the following output voltages:
Normal operation, 12 Volt input and two 100nF decoupling capacitors: 4.98 Volt
Floating GND on L7805CV and voltmeter as load: 11.5 Volt
Floating GND on L7805CV and 1 KΩ parallel with voltmeter: 8.5 Volt
Can you expand on the decoupling capacitors? I didn't put any capacitors into my circuit....perhaps that's the root of my problem...what are decoupling capacitors? Where would they go?
Sorry for the ignorance, and thanks for the info!
 
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