400 v dc to +-dc. Rectifier?

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iamtheone33339

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I have an adjustable 0-400v dc power board and want to add a rectifier to achieve +-dc voltage. Can someone please help me with an appropriate rectifier.
 

crutschow

Joined Mar 14, 2008
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I have an adjustable 0-400v dc power board and want to add a rectifier to achieve +-dc voltage. Can someone please help me with an appropriate rectifier.
Can't do that with just a rectifier. Why do you think you can?
All a rectifier can do is allow current flow in one direction, and block in in the reverse direction.

If you want ±400Vdc, you will need to use a switching regulator to convert the +400V to -400V.

If you can settle for ±200Vdc then you might be able to use a virtual ground circuit, depending upon the difference in load current between the plus and minus outputs.
 
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iamtheone33339

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Can't do that with just a rectifier. Why do you think you can?
All a rectifier can do is allow current flow in one direction, and block in in the reverse direction.

If you want ±400Vdc, you will need to use a switching regulator to convert the +400V to -400V.

If you can settle for ±200Vdc then you might be able to use a virtual ground circuit, depending upon the difference in load current between the plus and minus outputs.
Thanks for your help. What I am trying to do is get+-80v dc for an audio project. I have lots of carcasses laying around. Ie. Transformers amp boards circuit boards etc. I have adjustable 0 to 400v dc. I need to get a + and - dc with a ground. Can you help. I have many different regulators rectifiers caps diodes resistors.
 
A linear regulator would be too lossy.
You have to use a switching regulator with topology like half-bridge.
Another option is split 400V rail with two capacitors so you get +200V and -200V, make a high voltage amp from this rails and put an transformer between amp output and speaker.

Btw, what is the 400V power supply? Just a mains rectifier?
 

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iamtheone33339

Joined Feb 13, 2024
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A linear regulator would be too lossy.
You have to use a switching regulator with topology like half-bridge.
Another option is split 400V rail with two capacitors so you get +200V and -200V, make a high voltage amp from this rails and put an transformer between amp output and speaker.

Btw, what is the 400V power supply? Just a mains rectifier?
I have a boost module op amp pcb with irf749 12v dc in and 0 400v dc ou
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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I have a boost module op amp pcb with irf749 12v dc in and 0 400v dc ou
IMHO it would be borderline ridiculous to do what you are trying to do with the components that you have. Even if you have the design chops to conceive of a design it is far from certain that you could realize this design. A boost ratio of 33.33 probably involves a transformer and the specification of transformer to double that for various types of DC-DC converters is far from straightforward depending on your power requirements which you have not specified.

If you want ±80V then start with a mains transformer and produce that. Going from +12V to +400V to ±400 just makes no earthly sense. It makes even less sense for an audio project. for that matter it might be easier to forget the 400 volts altogether and go for ±80 V directly from +12V. The boost ratio is 6.67 which is borderline difficult, but still possible for a direct boost converter.
 
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iamtheone33339

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IMHO it would be borderline ridiculous to do what you are trying to do with the components that you have. Even if you have the design chops to conceive of a design it is far from certain that you could realize this design. A boost ratio of 33.33 probably involves a transformer and the specification of transformer to double that for various types of DC-DC converters is far from straightforward depending on your power requirements which you have not specified.

If you want ±80V then start with a mains transformer and produce that. Going from +12V to +400V to ±400 just makes no earthly sense. It makes even less sense for an audio project. for that matter it might be easier to forget the 400 volts altogether and go for ±80 V directly from +12V. The boost ratio is 6.67 which is borderline difficult, but still possible for a direct boost converter.
I can set the boost module to be 80v dc . Then is it possible to get the +-? With a rectifier is that earthly possible?
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
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I do have a transformer with 120ac in and 80v ac out 45v ac out and 35 ac out. Can you please tell me how to rectify to dc+-
What you want is a transformer with a 120 VAC primary and a center tapped 120 VAC secondary. Each secondary winding will give 60 VAC which when rectified will give approximately 85 VDC after rectification. Now you can easily make ±80 VDC power supplies with some allowance for losses.
 
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