Would you still use 5G despite its potential health dangers?

AlbertHall

Joined Jun 4, 2014
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The ozone layer was one of the most important reasons life on the earth ever existed.
Wrong again.
When life began, some 4 billion years ago, there was no oxygen in the atmosphere and so no ozone layer. Life continued to exist and evolve in the absence of an ozone layer until some life discovered photosynthesis and emitted oxygen into the atmosphere. Now there could be an ozone layer, though lots of the life existing then found the free oxygen poisonous.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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Brought to you by the same people who are spending money buying:
Anti-Radiation Maternity Clothes Top Baby Mom Protection Shield Dresses 8903188
Seriously has anyone looked at some of this anti-radiation clothing? The cost for a plane shirt can be like $75 and I thought any attire with a Harley Davidson logo was expensive. People actually buy this stuff believing that it's woven with special metallic fiber creating a protective barrier between them and the evils of the universe. Go figure?

Ron

 

ArakelTheDragon

Joined Nov 18, 2016
1,366
Wrong again.
When life began, some 4 billion years ago, there was no oxygen in the atmosphere and so no ozone layer. Life continued to exist and evolve in the absence of an ozone layer until some life discovered photosynthesis and emitted oxygen into the atmosphere. Now there could be an ozone layer, though lots of the life existing then found the free oxygen poisonous.
Not wrong even 1 until now ! The only reason life on the Earth can exist is because of the ozone layer! Thats why first some minor plants and bacteria created the oxygen and the ozone layer so some people can now deny it!
 

Ian Rogers

Joined Dec 12, 2012
1,136
Not wrong even 1 until now ! The only reason life on the Earth can exist is because of the ozone layer! Thats why first some minor plants and bacteria created the oxygen and the ozone layer so some people can now deny it!
Do yourself a favour!!
Scenario 1.. You are wrong and everyone else is right.. You lose
Scenario 2.. You are right and everyone else is wrong... You still lose
Scenario 3.. Stop! Then you can pretend you are right before the troll police get here..

Its not worth the hassle you are getting!
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
18,181
I am so into sticking my head in a Microwave oven. Cold day, quick
warmup. Starting to forget things now.....who are you......voices in
my head.......why am I here......

Then there is this -

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/01/health/cellphone-radiation-cancer.html


Regards, Dana.
Interesting study. Even though it found "something", it confirms the larger point that unless you look very hard, and use conditions that may not be relevant (small animal, high dose, lower frequency), you can't see any effect.

I find this ironic. We've known for decades that a plant-based, "nutritarian" diet can reduce cancer risks substantially, possibly even eliminate it and even cure existing cancers at comparable rates to other treatments. Despite this easily detected and large effect, people have largely not changed their behavior to take advantage of this knowledge. But when a teensy tiny hint of a risk of cancer is postulated for cellphones, some people go berserk and panic. The same people that won't bother to eat a better diet that's known to promote health.

Humans, for all their analytical powers, are really bad at managing the risks of rare events.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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They're the same ones resisting all vaccines too. Putting the rest of the world out to make them feel safer?
I guess we could also say:
Would you still have your children vaccinated despite its potential health dangers?

It's a matter of how the original and this question is worded and the wording in this case obviously reflects strong bias. People are free to make their own life decisions but when asking a question the question should be without any bias.

What is your view or opinion as to potential 5G radiation health hazards? What is your view or opinion as to potential vaccination health hazards for children? In this thread the thread starter words the question clearly stating there are 5G potential health hazards like it is already a given? If I wanted to know if 5G was a potential health hazard I would look for something unbiased and a little more credible than health free idaho. Sometimes people just seem to look for something to believe or a cause. Websites like the one linked give them what they are looking for. Show me something credible from a credible source?

Ron
 

KL7AJ

Joined Nov 4, 2008
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I seriously doubt that 5G signals pose much of a health hazard.

There are billions using plain vanilla cellular devices and millions wearing Bluetooth devices. If they were really hazardous, we'd see dead bodies all over the place. So far, all the bodies I see on the streets are the homeless.

Remember all those claims that 60 Hz. transmission lines can cause leukemia? It was just another scare tactic cooked up by a bunch of ecofraudsters.
And in Fairbanks, you'll see homeless guys with bluetooth receivers on their ears. I have no idea WHY. I guess they need to keep in touch with their agents. :)
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
18,181
They're the same ones resisting all vaccines too. Putting the rest of the world out to make them feel safer?
Humans have an odd view of risk. We'll do much riskier things when we perceive ourselves to be in control - drive cars, make bad diet choices, etc. - but expect almost no risk imposed on us by others.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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Humans have an odd view of risk. We'll do much riskier things when we perceive ourselves to be in control - drive cars, make bad diet choices, etc. - but expect almost no risk imposed on us by others.
But that's the thing about not getting vaccines, your not only putting yourself at risk but everyone you come in contact with if you get the illness that the vaccine prevents. This is why most school districts require up to date vaccines. If you live off grid and never go to a town is one thing, but living in civilization is some thing else.
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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But that's the thing about not getting vaccines, your not only putting yourself at risk but everyone you come in contact with if you get the illness that the vaccine prevents. This is why most school districts require up to date vaccines. If you live off grid and never go to a town is one thing, but living in civilization is some thing else.
That subject caused a slight rift in my family. About 4 years ago my daughter-in-law gave birth to our grandson Parker. A cousin of her's also had a child about the same time. The cousin was in the against vaccine group and my daughter-in-law, Allison made it clear she did not want Parker's cousin anywhere around Parker. Now I figure since Parker was getting all of his immunizations it was no big deal but Parker is my grandson and not my own child. My son agreed with his wife and that was the rule which I was fine with.

My grandfather, a doctor, was animate when it came to immunizations, he strongly believed in the medicine and when I was a kid, polio was still around as well as other diseases which are gone today so I grew up in a pro vaccination environment. However, I guess people can and will do whatever they wish to do.

Ron
 

Reloadron

Joined Jan 15, 2015
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They can in isolation but society has rules for your participation in it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ren-anti-vaxxers-unvaccinations-a8223636.html
Oh yeah, very much so. My daughter was born in North Carolina and my son in Naples Italy. Both the kids had their world health immunization certificates for international travel and even Tasha, the dog had her immunization certificates. That was through the 80s. Today I see exactly what you linked to more and more. I am sure as hell good with that, :)

Ron
 

nsaspook

Joined Aug 27, 2009
16,503
same report:

Cell Phone Radiation Leads to Cancer,
Says U.S. NTP in Final Report

Rats Developed Rare Heart Tumor
Cancer Link Was Once Thought Impossible

https://microwavenews.com/news-center/ntp-final-rf-report
Those rats need to stop using 90s cell-phones. :rolleyes:

“The exposures used in the studies cannot be compared directly to the exposure that humans experience when using a cell phone,” John Bucher, a senior scientist at the NTP, a government program within the department of Health and Human Services, says in a press release. “In our studies, rats and mice received radio frequency radiation across their whole bodies. By contrast, people are mostly exposed in specific local tissues close to where they hold the phone. In addition, the exposure levels and durations in our studies were greater than what people experience.”

Rats were exposed to radiation with a frequency of 900 megahertz, typical of the cellphones in use when the study was conceived in the 90s, for about nine hours per day for two years, The New York Times reports. The lowest levels of radiation used in the study were equivalent to the maximum exposure a phone can cause and still receive federal regulatory approval; the highest levels to which the animals were exposed were four times that.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...ion-linked-to-brain-cancer-in-male-rats-65037
 
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