Does it come with a lot of bloatware.

Some but not allot, some of it can easily be removed but still looking. As I have time my plan is to pick something and do a Google search to see if anyone has figured out how to disable or remove it. Going to start with One Drive. I will take care of copying and sharing my own way. Don't want anything I do ending up on an server someplace I don't control.

Guess most of the stuff is OK if you have a fast internet connection and are into music, news and social media. To me that stuff is just in the way what I need a computer for.

 

Although I liked Mozilla F.F. in every respect until it refused to load Utube video's then I went to Chrome and now that is giving me the B(lack) S.O.D. consistently to the point it is almost unusable, I get the same problem on the Win7 Lap Top.
Win 10 are promoting Spartan, any good?
Max.

 

Linux has won quietly. So much so, that you don't even realize it.

As long as you're around, everybody realizes it, repeatedly.

 

There is rumours out there that M.S. will charge for 10 after it has been installed for 1yr?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/06/17/windows-10-free-for-1-year-what-happens-next/
Max.

 

There is rumours out there that M.S. will charge for 10 after it has been installed for 1yr?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/06/17/windows-10-free-for-1-year-what-happens-next/
Max.

False rumor, MS has made a statement to that effect but can't remember where I saw it. The free upgrade is only going to available for one year, after that you will have to buy it and like before it's a one time purchase.

 

Interestingly that article quotes Terry Myerson, Microsoft’s Executive Vice President of Operating Systems as saying
“We announced that a free upgrade for Windows 10 will be made available to customers running Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and Windows Phone 8.1 who upgrade in the first year after launch. This is more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current for the supported lifetime of the device – at no cost.”

I think I read somewhere that the MS road-map of the future includes standard support for 5 years and premium support for 10 years. I guess the premium support would be a subscription service?

 

Who woulda thunk it. I just installed Office 97 on my Windows 10 (32bit) laptop and it works great. I only installed Word and Excel because those two are the only ones I really use and didn't install any of the accessories. So far I haven't found anything that I need that wouldn't install and work. This is the first OS Microsoft has released since XP that just may finally lure me away from XP.

 

Who woulda thunk it. I just installed Office 97 on my Windows 10 (32bit) laptop and it works great. I only installed Word and Excel because those two are the only ones I really use and didn't install any of the accessories. So far I haven't found anything that I need that wouldn't install and work. This is the first OS Microsoft has released since XP that just may finally lure me away from XP.

Thats how it's been for me too the apps work old stuff works new stuff works I just dont like the part with your web browsing. It want's to learn what you like. I looked into turning that off and if you do it logs you out of updates but edge runs really fast after the first load. It's updated my laptop 3 times now and all them must be big Os over hauls. But all and all it looks great.

I think I read somewhere that the MS road-map of the future includes standard support for 5 years and premium support for 10 years. I guess the premium support would be a subscription service?

They learned from RedHat Linux LOL I loved Redhat I only used windows because of pic programming when I started using pic the best software run on windows now it don't really matter as much but the ide's I paid for just run on windows so windows has to stay around. but if you have to pay a little for premium support thats fine just as long as it's like netflik's lol and not like cable.

 

I finally upgraded from win7-64 pro to win10-64 pro. After making an image of 7. I have been leary.............with ms up-grades.

Very Impressed and happy with the new system.

All of my programs were re-installed automatically. Even some oldies.

I only had to re-install tap driver for vpn. Both IDE and drivers were good with arduino.

The IDE with ti studio and st cube were ok. Had to re-install drivers.

Win7 booted in 11 sec. Win10 boots in about 8.

It took several hours to up-grade and it rebooted about a dozen times.

First successful up-grade for me with windows, after all these years. I always ending up with having to do clean install and re-install all my stuff.

Very Impressed.

 

We have Win10 on my wife's new Dell allinone with touchscreen.
I think its pretty good for a new MS OS. Slick and polished for the most part.
It set up with a minimum of fuss, found the network and negotiated with my other desktop for access to its shared folders without trouble.
We have some older Brother printers that we had to use generic drivers on for a few weeks until Brother released the drivers/utility packs for them. They were for 8.1 that Brother validated on 10. No further issues.
Older software seems to run OK. It loaded Office 2007 and Quicken 2006 without a hitch although after the first big update, Quicken got confused about the printer assignments. It is stuck on using the printer ports described for the old computer and won't change. Time for an upgrade anyway.
On the downside, the video driver and occasionally the wireless keyboard/mouse gets flaky. A warm restart fixes it and I expect that will be taken care of in a later release.
Firefox runs OK on it but some of the extensions/add ons won't.
Norton Internet Security runs fine on it but the taskbar won't run with FF yet.

You can tell its a new MS OS derived from previous versions. Some drivers date to 8.x. Some Control Panel utilities are titled 'Windows 7' etc. A couple of the 'welcome' screens say 'Enjoy your new tablet'..

For the basic task of home computing, its doing the job very well. She loves it.

I won't update my work desktop until I have to. A lot of my $$ development hardware/software hit the recycle bin moving from XP to 7. I'd like to keep that running as long as possible. One of these days I'll load MPLAB/MPLABX on it and see how it works but a lot of other stuff, analyzers etc. will have to be tested on 10. Probably not worth it.

Just my .03

 

Well, I changed my mind and decided to start the new year with a new version of Windows since I had heard that the upgrade process has become more stable. I didn't encounter any problems and it seems to work great so far.

It's nice to have the Start menu back again. I was impressed that my hardware drivers were automatically updated (except for my graphics card), and one of my programs actually runs better on Win10 than it did on Win8.1.

 

Getting rid of the 10 password login and revert to auto log in is a bit convoluted.
Max.

 

I started having problems with my PC freezing, and figured out the cause was having switched to the Balanced power plan. In Windows 10 it appears to severely limit the hardware's capabilities, and once I switched back to the High Performance plan the freezing stopped. I can live with that, and it's really not a big problem since the Balanced plan doesn't work well for using Remote Desktop anyway.

 

I started having problems with my PC freezing, and figured out the cause was having switched to the Balanced power plan. In Windows 10 it appears to severely limit the hardware's capabilities, and once I switched back to the High Performance plan the freezing stopped. I can live with that, and it's really not a big problem since the Balanced plan doesn't work well for using Remote Desktop anyway.

Thanks for that! My wife's new W10 all in one is suffering from similar problems.. She noticed that it seemed to be when it came out of sleep. Gonna change the power plan..

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/01/06/windows-10-spying-secrets-revealed/

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/01/06/windows-10-spying-secrets-revealed/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/reveal...-that-windows-10-privacy-critics-are-missing/

 

I have a new experience with windows 10. Apparently, you can not use a previous windows version key on a clean install.

In other words, you can not use the free upgrade offer, to do a clean install, without doing at least one unclean upgrade, so that windows 10 can generate a free upgrade key.

That key is needed for clean free install.

I was upgrading an in-laws computer, and apparently, I'll have to start all over, with clean install of previous version.

Still researching.

 

I have a new experience with windows 10. Apparently, you can not use a previous windows version key on a clean install.

In other words, you can not use the free upgrade offer, to do a clean install, without doing at least one unclean upgrade, so that windows 10 can generate a free upgrade key.

That key is needed for clean free install.

I was upgrading an in-laws computer, and apparently, I'll have to start all over, with clean install of previous version.

Still researching.

Yes, you have to do an upgrade install first, this registers the computer with MS. Then you can wipe the drive and do a clean install of 10. 10 upgraded computers do not use a key like previous versions of windows, when the clean installation tries to authenticate it will talk to MS servers to see if the computer is in the data base.

 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/reveal...-that-windows-10-privacy-critics-are-missing/

Justify "phoning home" anyway you want. Personally, I don't want my PCs sending any info that I am not aware of.

 

Well I found the problem, and of course it's me not following directions.

This laptop had windows 7 on it when I attempted an upgrade. I have completed 3 successful upgrades. But after upgrading this one, win 10 would not update. It would hang....or reboot and start at beginning of installation.

I was advised by some on the ms support site to download media creation tool and upgrade from thumb drive without internet connection. And after installation, it should update.

But when I booted from thumb, I selected clean install, instead of upgrade, like I as suppose too.

So, I will be reinstalling win 7.