I knew I would evoke a vicious response with that post. In reality I also believe it is a bit silly to talk about changing the word used for NBA owners.

What I was trying to do is get you thinking from the pespective of the other side. If people would do this, think about what the other side is experiencing, it would go a long way toward ending the toxic divisiveness we are experiencing in today’s world.

No, @Berzerker, I am not black, and seeing the way black people are treated in my country has convinced me that I would not be where I am today if only the color of my skin was different. In fact, my quick and sometimes disproportionate response when I am dissed would likely have landed me in prison if I were black.

People’s experience of society is dofferent based on their race, gender and class, and we all need to acknowledge this and, hopefully do something about it.

Let me give an example, The other day I ordered a meal at KFC. I asked them to leave out the biscuit because I would just throw it away. They argued with me that it was included and the could not give me a refund. I told them I was not asking for a refund, I just wanted them not to give me a biscuit that I would throw away.

Of course, when I got my tray there was a biscuit on it. I pointed this out, so the cashier picked it up and threw it away. I (verbally) lost it.

If I was not a “respectable” looking white man, I think there is a good chance they would have called the police. In fact, I have seen that happen since, unlike many people in the U.S. I live on a diverse community.

Bob

 

I would tell most black people to stop living with a chip on your shoulder, it obscures reality. It's 2019, not 1865, there is not another persons foot on your neck instead of a chip on the shoulder. I live and travel in the least diverse part of the country in respect to being black and feel right at home with people wearing cowboy hats in Idaho and Wyoming.. The toxic divisiveness works both ways. The American urban black culture of aggressiveness is sickening to me and I thank goodness daily I wasn't raised that way. The simple truth is native Africans and other newly arrived people with black skin hate the American urban black culture too because they see it for what it really is, a self loathing endless pit of racist anger mixed with a destructive lack of male father figures.

https://www.essence.com/lifestyle/h...e-of-fatherhood-one-positive-image-at-a-time/

 

Oh, Oh so black people are owners too

Even back in slavery days - https://www.theroot.com/did-black-people-own-slaves-1790895436

It's 2019, not 1865,

Good thing for you its not 1924 -
"Oregon's racially discriminatory state constitutional amendment, Section 35, was legally invalidated after the Civil War by the ratification of the 14th Amendment to the federal Constitution in 1868. However, Section 35 remained formally on the books for another 58 years. In 1925, the Oregon legislature proposed the formal repeal of Section 35, adopted as House Joint Resolution 8 (1925). The measure was referred to Oregon voters as a 1926 ballot initiative which was approved with 62.5% in favor" From - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_black_exclusion_laws#Repeal

 

Even back in slavery days - https://www.theroot.com/did-black-people-own-slaves-1790895436



Good thing for you its not 1924 -
"Oregon's racially discriminatory state constitutional amendment, Section 35, was legally invalidated after the Civil War by the ratification of the 14th Amendment to the federal Constitution in 1868. However, Section 35 remained formally on the books for another 58 years. In 1925, the Oregon legislature proposed the formal repeal of Section 35, adopted as House Joint Resolution 8 (1925). The measure was referred to Oregon voters as a 1926 ballot initiative which was approved with 62.5% in favor" From - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_black_exclusion_laws#Repeal

Yes, there was Blatant Racism and Vitriol in 1924 Oregon and in most of America. Big F...ing Deal. I fail to see how that affects me today.

Most of them actually hated slavery and free blacks (enacting legislation prohibiting slavery and banning free blacks.). They wanted the Souths problems to stay in the south. Most feared slavery would create a social caste system and discourage white settlers from coming to Oregon, leaving the state looking like some of the worst regions of the South.

 

I fail to see how that affects me today.

Never said it did.

 

Never said it did.

"Good thing for you its not 1924"

I was worried for a second, I'll put a lockout on my time-machine for that era.

 

And you believe there is not today? Get your head out of the sand.

Our current president was elected, in part, because of his blatant racism.

Bob

My eyes are perfectly open and my head is perfectly clear.
Yes, there are ignorant and stupid people today but times have changed. I grew up the deep cotton country Texas in the 50's/60's and went to separate and unequal 'negro' schools.

I don't need a lecture from you or anyone one else about the nature of blatant racism. I've lived it, marched against it and kicked its ass. I will NOT be defined by my skin color.

 

Yes, laws have changed, amd things are better for the most part today. But among individuals, racist attitudes are still rampant.

The younger people, millenials and gen-Z show some hope for change in the future.

Bob

 

Each generation changes the attitudes of our country, a little bit at a time. A side effect of this change in values, is that polarization in other groups increases. On both sides of an issue this polarization happens. If we feed this effect, it becomes more difficult to effect change. And tomorrow, another issue will face us and the previous one will fade away.

But, change is the only thing that is inevitable.

When I was about 10 years old, my grandfather took me to Fenway Park for my first All-American Red Sox baseball game. I’ll never forget his comments as we drive through the city. “Look at those lazy n****ers just sitting on the stoop. Damn n****ers are too lazy to get a job.”

Fast forward six years. I was 16 and was going on a date with a classmate. My father and mom were cool. But my dad admonished me. “Don’t mention this to your grandparents!” For I was going out with a black girl.

Another aphorism is that more things change, the more they stay the same. I have another example. As I grew up, there was one ethnic group that was despised. They were denied employment. They were discriminated against at every turn. Today..., not so much.

Anyone remember, “Irish need not apply”?

Today, not so much.

So this is the takeaway that I want you to have. Believe in what’s right. No matter what you believe is right. And live that way, in every aspect of your life. Personally, the kaffufle over “owner” in this case is small stuff.

Don’t sweat the small stuff.

The Universe will sort it out anyway...

 

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