The two symbols in the OP are generally understood to represent two DC sources, where the one with multiple cells has a higher voltage than the one with one cell, when both appear in the same schematic.

They may indicate 1-cell vs multicell.

They dont indicate (without additional notation) precisely how many cells, or precisely what voltages.

They don't indicate technology of source, chemical or otherwise.

They don't represent signal inputs.

Symbols which are understood only by their author, are irrelevant and off topic, as the purpose of shared schematics is to communicate something understood by others.

Comprehensive description of cell/battery symbols presents in American National Standard ANSI Y32.2-1975, page 30.

 

Which implies the 2nd is higher voltage than the first, right?

 

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Which implies the 2nd is higher voltage than the first, right?

Depends on the cell type, right? You could have two alkaline cells deliver only 3V while one lithium cell delivers 3.7V.

 

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Depends on the cell type, right? You could have two alkaline cells deliver only 3V while one lithium cell delivers 3.7V.

If the 2 symbols appear in the same schematic, without notation or comment, it would be illogical to assume their individual cells hold different voltages.

 

If the 2 symbols appear in the same schematic, without notation or comment, it would be illogical to assume their individual cells hold different voltages.

If the voltages aren't called out, it would be illogical to assume much of anything!

 

If the voltages aren't called out, it would be illogical to assume much of anything!

I disagree. That doesn't make sense to me . If they're in the same schematic its logical to assume the one with more plates represents a higher voltage.

 

hi john.
Two images drawn with LTS, what are the battery voltages.?
As I said before you cannot determine the actual voltage of a battery by the number of plates in the battery symbol.
If the battery voltage is not annotated alongside the symbol, you have no idea of the actual battery voltage.
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you cannot determine the actual voltage of a battery by the number of plates in the battery symbol.

Yep, as I've said once or twice. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

 

morning john,
Okay, got it.
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morning john,
Okay, got it.
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Thx for the visual aids!

 

I have now found this thread of discussion and I admit that I have not read all the messages
So, from the beginning
Vbe = electrical voltage supply in the base emitter circuit
Vce = electrical voltage supply in the collector emitter circuit
The two voltages are different because we aim to an amplification factor

 

I had to have a look at this thread to see why so many posts for such a simple question ....

I guess all you can say for sure is more plates , more voltage !

 

The two voltages are different because we aim to an amplification factor

Oh, yes!
Vbe=100V
Vce=10V
Rin =100k
RL=500
Amplification factor =10
Then Ib=1mA, Ic=10 mA
Vbe and Vce certainly are different.