validate a circuit for a light

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yvandupre

Joined Jul 9, 2017
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Hi

I'm a software developper and i trying to create a diving light

something like




I have a lithium battery

4S3P (18650 battery)

on top of the battery, i thinking to use a bms
http://www.all-battery.com/PCBfor4Cells14.8VLi-ion_Li-PolymerPacks5AWorking10Acut-off-32161.aspx

after I use a switch
Carling Technologies 2FA54-73
http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/65/F-SeriesSW_Details___COS-257553.pdf

switch will be attached to le
led driver
http://www.kaidomain.com/p/S024008.4-18V-1-Mode-Drive-Circuit-Board-for-1-x-Cree-XHP70

led driver will be connected to skink pad
http://www.kaidomain.com/p/S025183....12V-DTP-Copper-MCPCB-for-Cree-XHP70-(-2-pcs-)

sinkpad will be connected XHP70
http://www.cree.com/led-components/media/documents/ds-XHP70.pdf

in term of voltage, amperage and how component connected to each other that make sense?
 

SLK001

Joined Nov 29, 2011
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Does it work like you want above water? If so, then your real problem will be to halt any water intrusion during a dive.
 

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yvandupre

Joined Jul 9, 2017
9
not yet tested... not really scare about this part.

before weld every component, want to be sure everything will work correctly.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
17,498
How will you deal with waterproofing? I mean, those switches aren't meant to be wet.

I haven't studied every component in detail but it looks like you should be able to nearly plug and play. One concern I have is heat management. If you run the LED anywhere near it's maximum ratings, it needs good heat sinking and it's not obvious from what you've written that you've addressed that. The copper mounting boards help but I'm not sure that's enough.
 

Dodgydave

Joined Jun 22, 2012
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Your led driver needs 4.5 amps current @14V that's 63W maximum power, from the battery, the led driver has a temperature cut off of 55C, and dims automatically to reduce temperature if needed, that's a lot of heat in a small space, if you plan on using the light for say 2Hrs your battery needs have a capacity of 10Ah minimum...
 

profbuxton

Joined Feb 21, 2014
421
No indication of the depth you will be using this light at. Those switch waterproofing boots don't look like they are meant for for use at depth, look more like just weatherproof types.
 

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yvandupre

Joined Jul 9, 2017
9
majority of the diving canister light use a normal switch since many year and work fine
 

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yvandupre

Joined Jul 9, 2017
9
Your led driver needs 4.5 amps current @14V that's 63W maximum power, from the battery, the led driver has a temperature cut off of 55C, and dims automatically to reduce temperature if needed, that's a lot of heat in a small space, if you plan on using the light for say 2Hrs your battery needs have a capacity of 10Ah minimum...
head is in aluminium

i have another driver who use less current, could try this one if the other head too much
http://www.kaidomain.com/p/S024447.6V-12V-5-Mode-Driver-Circuit-Board-for-1-x-Cree-XHP70

i use 4S3P lithum battery

each battery have 3100mAh.

something i'm not sure

depending of the driver, it use around 4.5 but led at 12 v use 2.40A... there are a big loss?
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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head is in aluminium

i have another driver who use less current, could try this one if the other head too much
http://www.kaidomain.com/p/S024447.6V-12V-5-Mode-Driver-Circuit-Board-for-1-x-Cree-XHP70

i use 4S3P lithum battery

each battery have 3100mAh.

something i'm not sure

depending of the driver, it use around 4.5 but led at 12 v use 2.40A... there are a big loss?
On your last question, no. I believe the LED has two modes and when in 12V mode, it will draw just 2.4A. To get the same power out of 6V requires double the current. This means you need a different driver if you want to operate the LED at 12V. Or just use the 6V mode.
 

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yvandupre

Joined Jul 9, 2017
9
On your last question, no. I believe the LED has two modes and when in 12V mode, it will draw just 2.4A. To get the same power out of 6V requires double the current. This means you need a different driver if you want to operate the LED at 12V. Or just use the 6V mode.
led can operate at
6V 4800mA
12V 2400mA

if we check this driver
http://www.kaidomain.com/p/S024008.4-18V-1-Mode-Drive-Circuit-Board-for-1-x-Cree-XHP70

Operating voltage: 4-18V, maximum 20V

and it's said

LED current: 4.5-5A

that why i find that strange... this driver is specialy made for cree xhp70
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
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that why i find that strange... this driver is specialy made for cree xhp70
Yes, I take that to mean that you have to wire the LED for it's 6V operating mode, and the driver will provide a constant current at that higher range. The PCB pad you have chosen appears to be designed for only the 12V mode and may not be compatible. You need the other one.
 
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yvandupre

Joined Jul 9, 2017
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Ye

Yes, I take that to mean that you have to wire the LED for it's 6V operating mode, and the driver will provide a constant current at that higher range. The PCB pad you have chosen appears to be designed for only the 12V mode and may not be compatible. You need the other one.

ok but if i wire to operate a 6v, will need to change my battery
 
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