Unwanted spark suppression from an automotive spark coil

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AGray

Joined Jan 18, 2021
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I have played with quite a few ignition circuits and from experience not clamping down gate voltage is the surest way to destroy a mosfet or igbt. Gate to source with a zener very close to drive voltage prevents negative gate voltage as well as positive spike.
Is this in addition or as a replacement of the usual pull-down resistor on the gate? In this case it would be using an N-channel MOSFET with the source connected to ground via the induction coil.
 

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AGray

Joined Jan 18, 2021
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I wish the TS good luck with the project. But from the big companies doing the research on this detonation jet engine after light off they don't use a spark, but a type of tube to delay from the last ignition to the next one.
Thanks! We're still running at pretty low frequencies (maximum of around 2Hz), so using a longer tube to sustain detonation isn't practical quite yet... We've so far have had good luck starting the cycle with a relatively low intensity spark (automotive magnitude), which causes deflagration which then transitions to detonation with the aid of a Shchelkin spiral. We're aiming to eventually move to experimenting with continuously-rotating-detonation-engines (CRDEs) but they're a different kettle of fish to PDREs so we're trying to learn as much as possible here first. It all takes time and is a challenge to balance with my undergrad work with only two or three people working on it, but thanks All for the advice!
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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which causes deflagration which then transitions to detonation with the aid of a Shchelkin spiral.
That is what I meant by a special tube, couldn't remember the name. Have you thought of having a separate small ignition chamber to cause the detonation? Some diesel engines used that back in the day, a very small ignition chamber in the head to get the main cylinder running.

Using a regular spark plug, how do you keep the insulator nose from shattering? Bad detonation/pinging in a car engine can cause that to happen, this was before electronic control of engines.
 

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AGray

Joined Jan 18, 2021
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That is what I meant by a special tube, couldn't remember the name. Have you thought of having a separate small ignition chamber to cause the detonation? Some diesel engines used that back in the day, a very small ignition chamber in the head to get the main cylinder running.

Using a regular spark plug, how do you keep the insulator nose from shattering? Bad detonation/pinging in a car engine can cause that to happen, this was before electronic control of engines.
I can't think of the name of the tube you mean, but I don't think it's a Shchelkin spiral, they tend to be in essence a coarse solid spiral like a compression spring. We have looked at running a pre-detonator tube, i.e. a small diameter tube which takes less fuel/ox volume to fill and contains the deflagration to detonation transition into the main engine but still have plenty of research to be doing with the current configuration.
We haven't had a problem with the spark plug insulation yet, I suppose because it only sees deflagration, the detonation never occours directly at the spark plug. Also the chamber pressures are faily close to atmospheric, the beauty of a PDRE is the combustion takes place at the flame/shock front so combustion is virtually isochoric and much more efficient than deflagration-based engines., and ridiculous pressures aren't meanigfully seen by the combustion vessel.
 

shortbus

Joined Sep 30, 2009
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I can't think of the name of the tube you mean, but I don't think it's a Shchelkin spiral, they tend to be in essence a coarse solid spiral like a compression spring.
I guess I was just assuming the the Shchelkin spiral was tubular, and transferred the energy though it.
 
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