trying to adapt nortell phone to TRS

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mumd2003

Joined Dec 31, 2024
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I am a physician in a position where all the phones or landline.

I'm using a turtle beach PX 22 controller. Wired. Or call of duty or any other old wired turtle beach headset. The headset is set up for a TRS mail on the controller. It's meant for chatting and it works very well for example I can use the TRS mail to mail to plug it into a cordless phone.

In the past purchased an adapter from Headset buddy. It's an RJ9 which plugs into the telephone headset jack and the other end is a TR R.S. female. I then bought a TRRS Maehl to plug into that. The other end of it is a TRS female. I then use a TRS Maehl/TRRS Maehl to plug into the controller. In the old days the specific adapter that I bought from Headset buddy work. Now none of them work no matter what I do. I've also tried all of their vendors. I then got the pin out that's described on the web. I'm not really very savvy with this stuff but I'm afraid that even if I use itit won't work.

here is the link to Perplexity which you should be able to follow which has all the details. Does anybody know of a real adapter that works that I don't have to make? Is there anybody out there who has the wherewithal to make this so that I know it will work. Here's the link. Please help me I'm out of options in our phone system will not work so we cannot use a wired headset to our landline phones and without these adapters were sunk systematically in the department.

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/i-have-a-nortel-landline-phone-l2cDRu7_TcOJ1hXtMuVcLw
 

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mumd2003

Joined Dec 31, 2024
4
I am a physician in a position where all the phones or landline.

I'm using a turtle beach PX 22 controller. Wired. Or call of duty or any other old wired turtle beach headset. The headset is set up for a TRS mail on the controller. It's meant for chatting and it works very well for example I can use the TRS mail to mail to plug it into a cordless phone.

In the past purchased an adapter from Headset buddy. It's an RJ9 which plugs into the telephone headset jack and the other end is a TR R.S. female. I then bought a TRRS Maehl to plug into that. The other end of it is a TRS female. I then use a TRS Maehl/TRRS Maehl to plug into the controller. In the old days the specific adapter that I bought from Headset buddy work. Now none of them work no matter what I do. I've also tried all of their vendors. I then got the pin out that's described on the web. I'm not really very savvy with this stuff but I'm afraid that even if I use itit won't work.

here is the link to Perplexity which you should be able to follow which has all the details. Does anybody know of a real adapter that works that I don't have to make? Is there anybody out there who has the wherewithal to make this so that I know it will work. Here's the link. Please help me I'm out of options in our phone system will not work so we cannot use a wired headset to our landline phones and without these adapters were sunk systematically in the department.

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/i-have-a-nortel-landline-phone-l2cDRu7_TcOJ1hXtMuVcLw

sorry for all the typos I'm using speech recognition. If there's any questions feel free to follow up I'm desperate. I'm sure for somebody with a lot of expertise in this field this is pretty straightforward. I'm a physician good with that stuff but not this stuff please help
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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I am relieved that the spelling is not a language issue! Speech recognition software is often incorrect or even rather goofy.
I can appreciate the problem but not provide a simple solution. The problem is partly that not all of the producers of interconnects follow the same standard. But in addition there may be an actual quality issue. beyond that there is also the fact that some headsets use an electret microphone while a few may use a dynamic mic, and the really old phones used a carbon microphone.
 

liaifat85

Joined Sep 12, 2023
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The adapter should be explicitly compatible with both your headset and the Nortel phone model you use. Before deploying any solution department-wide, test the setup with a single unit to confirm functionality and address any unforeseen issues.
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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There are headsets made to go in place of a common handset, complete with the RJ9 plug. possibly not as comfortable, and possibly costing more. But with the benefit of being a perfect plug-in and play.And I am guessing that is the goal.
 

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mumd2003

Joined Dec 31, 2024
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grateful for responses. The particular issue here is that I have found that the turtle Beach microphone is exceptional for speech recognition strangely. It truly is better than most. It is also cheap. It also has side tone so we can hear our speech which is incredible for accurate speech recognition. Finally it's a clever device in that there is a TRRS female that will speak with a phone like an iPhone. The TRS 2 mm female is normally the chat line. Again that works fine if I'm hooking in a cordless phone but it doesn't work with the landline phone headset jack. The sad thing is this used to work with a jack that I had and now I can't get anyone to work. It should just be a wiring issue and I need to use the turtle beach set up for the functional reasons above. Another headset that did that would be fine. The other beauty of the turtle Beach is that the headset TRRS in Jack accepts any headset so it becomes a platform to allow anybody to plug into the system. People seem to have different headset requirements. For me I use a David Clark pilot headset because the passive noise isolation is incredible much better than active noise cancellation. I've become obsessed with this because of my work as a radiologist and needing quiet. In fact I call a mastoid hug because it damps down vibration which is a different level of isolation. At any rate the headset is not the issue it's that controller. Since I had aadapter that worked I assume I could get one to work again. I'm not that handy with wiring so I was wondering if there's someone out there who might be able to tackle this.
 

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mumd2003

Joined Dec 31, 2024
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grateful for responses. The particular issue here is that I have found that the turtle Beach microphone is exceptional for speech recognition strangely. It truly is better than most. It is also cheap. It also has side tone so we can hear our speech which is incredible for accurate speech recognition. Finally it's a clever device in that there is a TRRS female that will speak with a phone like an iPhone. The TRS 2 mm female is normally the chat line. Again that works fine if I'm hooking in a cordless phone but it doesn't work with the landline phone headset jack. The sad thing is this used to work with a jack that I had and now I can't get anyone to work. It should just be a wiring issue and I need to use the turtle beach set up for the functional reasons above. Another headset that did that would be fine. The other beauty of the turtle Beach is that the headset TRRS in Jack accepts any headset so it becomes a platform to allow anybody to plug into the system. People seem to have different headset requirements. For me I use a David Clark pilot headset because the passive noise isolation is incredible much better than active noise cancellation. I've become obsessed with this because of my work as a radiologist and needing quiet. In fact I call a mastoid hug because it damps down vibration which is a different level of isolation. At any rate the headset is not the issue it's that controller. Since I had aadapter that worked I assume I could get one to work again. I'm not that handy with wiring so I was wondering if there's someone out there who might be able to tackle this.
PS the biggest frustration is that everything in the system is the same and the old adapters that I had work but they wore out and now when I buy new ones they don't. I bought them from headset buddy before but there's a new owner who tried to help. The old adapter still work so I gather I should just follow the pin out and try it but I wish there was a permanent solution out there if anybody has had to deal with this. Thanks for listening
 

MisterBill2

Joined Jan 23, 2018
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My suggestion then is to trace out the internal circuitry of your favorite "old adapters" and then have some competent tech person either modify the ones that do not work, or repair the "worn out" older adapters. The fact is that quite a bit, but not all, of things are repairable.

The whole concept that "Newer is Better" is at best incorrect, and in many cases just plain DUMB.

Consider that the main reason for an existing product to be re-engineered is to reduce the cost or increase profits by adding some feature at the request of the marketing department.
 
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