Tonight's Libation

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
8,763
Not yet, Just four score!
Max.
I'm laughing now... and it's a private linguistic sort of thing... I mean, what is about english-speaking people and their attachment to counting things by the dozen, or in intervals that are multiples of 15? ... we have ten fingers for God's sake! ... That's probably the only thing that Napoleon contributed to humanity...

Don't take me wrong, it's just been my own private enigma for awhile... a very happy birthday, btw. And may God pour all of his blessings on you and yours, regardless if you count them on the decimal, binary or vigesimal. :D
 

cmartinez

Joined Jan 17, 2007
8,763
You are 80-years old and voluntarily live in Winnipeg? Like Grand Forks, ND - Winnipeg is not the end of the world, but you can see it from there!

Spend your next twenty years in Phoenix, or San Diego or some other better place.
Whaaaaaaattttt???? :confused: Now I'm confused... I thought that a score of anything was based on 15, not 20! ... like a "fortnight" or something similar...
 

MaxHeadRoom

Joined Jul 18, 2013
30,661
Evidently it originated presumably from the practice in counting sheep or large herds of cattle, of counting orally from 1 to 20, and making a score or notch on a stick, before proceeding to count the next 20." The first citation for that use of the word score in the OED is in the year 1100.
Max.
 

wayneh

Joined Sep 9, 2010
18,104
I'm laughing now... and it's a private linguistic sort of thing... I mean, what is about english-speaking people and their attachment to counting things by the dozen, or in intervals that are multiples of 15? ... we have ten fingers for God's sake! ... That's probably the only thing that Napoleon contributed to humanity...
The use of "score" would likely have disappeared from our lexicon if not for its most famous usage.

"Nothing in Lincoln’s speeches is common. “Four score and seven” was VERY intentional, but I wouldn’t call it flowery or even highbrow for the time. He was deliberately opening his speech with a biblical cadence—one that he was sure would resonate with his audience—in order to establish that this was subject matter of the highest importance, delivered on hallowed ground.

The biblical phrase specifically evoked here is “three score and ten”, which is the amount of time allotted to us here on earth by God, i.e., a standard human lifespan. Realize that most everybody in that crowd would have been familiar with this phrase. Lincoln is thus telling his listeners that the republic has lasted longer than any of their lives, thereby setting out that what’s at stake here is bigger than any of us. He follows with “our fathers brought forth”—an invocation of his audience’s (and his own) living personal connection with the entire history of the republic. I suspect he’s also trying here to stir up their filial devotion to their fathers’ cause. (‘Forefathers’ would have been too flowery and distant, ‘ancestors’ too remote.) Oh, and those fathers ‘brought forth’ rather than ‘created’, in order to, um, create a more perfect oratorical cadence—see how I’m echoing the preamble to the Constitution here? Similar rhetorical technique—with hints of alliteration, assonance, consonance.

The depth of subtext, layers of deliberation, and meters of cadence in the Gettysburg Address are just extraordinary, even for Lincoln. They permeate and inform the entire 274 words. If poetry is compressed and choreographed speech, this address has to rank with the greatest poems ever written."​
 
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