I once found a copy of this book in a used book store, originally published in 1980:



I wish I still had it because it was full of statistically based predictions of so many things, be interesting to compare that to today's reality, some 45 years have passed since the book and its many studies were conducted.

Oh look, here's the PDF of the entire report.

 

From Today's The Guardian

 

​

 

 

​

 

​

 

That 'Linux' screen above was from the old space shuttle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/4_Pi

The Space Shuttle used five AP-101 computers as general-purpose computers (GPCs). Four operated in sync, for redundancy, while the fifth was a backup running software written independently. The Shuttle's guidance, navigation and control software was written in HAL/S, a special-purpose high-level programming language, while much of the operating system and low-level utility software was written in assembly language.

Cool but very outdated as an example of 'Linux'. ASM would have been better.
Linux today.

https://shanemielke.com/work/spacex/crew-dragon-displays/

 

What can we expect when there's no more prison space left?
Prisons to run out of space by spring

It's not for a lack of prison space in America and NYC. Some locations in the USA have just decided that some crimes are not serious crimes like stealing (illegal immigration, etc...) from stores until they close from that 'non-serious crime.

The result is a 'Doom Loop' that is spinning faster and faster to the bottom.

 

I'd need to see data, statistics showing that formerly custodial crimes are now being treated as non-custodial, I've heard the claims but never seen direct evidence.

This data is from 2001:

View attachment 323837

There's something seriously wrong, being at the top of the list twenty five years ago was a warning sign that's been ignored. Why would the wealthiest most powerful country in the world with huge natural resources be yo of this list...

https://giannicriminallaw.com/is-new-york-not-prosecuting-shoplifting/

Criminal Prosecution for Shoplifting on Long Island vs. The Boroughs of New York City
Long Island, encompassing Nassau County and Suffolk County, has taken a notably tougher stance on prosecuting retail theft compared to the five boroughs of New York City (Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, The Bronx, and Staten Island). This variation in approach may be attributed to the differences in legal enforcement policies between the two regions.

In recent years, New York City has seen a shift towards more progressive policies aiming to reduce incarceration for non-violent crimes, including shoplifting. While prosecutors will charge for an arrest made in New York City, there is an increasing number of shoplifting offenders that New York City police officers aren’t arresting. Additionally, retail establishments decided to remove security measures that were once in place in order to deter shoplifting.

In contrast, Long Island’s legal framework remains relatively stringent for larceny, shoplifting, criminal possession of stolen property, and other related crimes. Police officers on Long Island have continued to make arrests for shoplifting in most cases. Long Island prosecutors pursue larceny cases with the same degree of rigor as always, utilizing the full extent of New York State’s Penal Law.

This includes charging shoplifters with larceny, which can range from a misdemeanor petit larceny for lower-value thefts to a felony grand larceny for higher-value items. Long Island authorities justify this tough approach by highlighting their commitment to protecting local businesses and maintaining community safety.

 

Look:


and
View attachment 323842

The solution to New York's problem was discussed in 1981, just needs someone to push it and get it done:

Man do I miss those days...

The lawyers do know the state and enforcement of the law for the sake of their allegedly criminal clients.

These rates are reported incidents with the COVID pandemic shift that sort of warps the value of the data without deeper inspection. The rates are 'down' now IMO because nobody even bothers to report incidents because the police and city hall don't care, the people won't be arrested, etc...

https://counciloncj.org/shoplifting-trends-what-you-need-to-know/

• shoplifting incidents reported to police have rebounded since falling dramatically in 24 large American cities during 2020. But whether the overall tally is up or down compared with pre-pandemic levels depends on the inclusion of New York City. With New York’s numbers included, reported incidents were 16% higher (8,453 more incidents) in the study cities during the first half of 2023 compared to the first half of 2019; without New York, the number was 7% lower (-2, 552 incidents).
• New York (64%) and Los Angeles (61%) had the largest increases in reported shoplifting among the study cities from mid-year 2019 to mid-year 2023. St. Petersburg (-78%) and St. Paul (-65%) had the largest decreases.
• Comparing the most recent trends, from the first halves of 2022 and 2023, Los Angeles (109%) and Dallas (73%) experienced the largest increases among the study cities; San Francisco (-35%) and Seattle (-31%) saw the largest decreases.
• Shoplifting generally followed the same patterns as other acquisitive crimes (except motor vehicle theft) over the past five years, according to the FBI’s national data. But unlike other types of larcenies, shoplifting rates remained below pre-pandemic levels through 2022.
• The median value of goods stolen in shoplifting incidents grew from approximately $75 in 2019 to roughly $100 in 2021. Looking at 90% of incidents and excluding those in the top 10% in terms of value, the value of stolen goods in shoplifting incidents in 2021 was $756 or less, a $184 increase from 2019.
• The share of shoplifting incidents categorized as felonies (in five of the cities) nearly doubled from about 8% prior to the onset of the pandemic to almost 16% in the first half of 2023. (State statutes set felony theft dollar thresholds.)
• More than 95% of shoplifting incidents in 2019, 2020, and 2021 involved one or two people and 0.1% (or one out of 1,000) involved more than six people. But the share of cases lacking information on the number of people increased from 16% in 2019 to more than 25% in 2021.
• The proportion of reported shoplifting incidents that involved an assault or other crime rose 9% from 2019 to 2021 but constitutes a small share (less than 2%) of overall shoplifting events. Store assaults were 7% lower in the first half of 2023 compared to the first half of 2022 but were 8% higher for the same period compared to 2019.

The best evidence (actual cause and effect) is empty streets of once large retail locations that are now are empty because of losses so great they can't stay in business at X location because of rampant criminality.
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/in...ting/283-312cb798-1a0a-49fd-9c3f-fe53d4669ca1

There is a solution. Stop the criminals.

 

People don't care anymore IMHO. The past few years its become popular to be rude, demeaning, disrespectful, selfish, (some) politicians are now acting this way routinely and so are some of the public.

When people on a jury are being doxed and elected representatives when interviewed find it too hard to simply condemn that behavior, then its no wonder some members of the public have given up being honest or decent.

People do care, when their kids can't play at a local park because of drug addicts, can't buy food locally because of closed food stores, can't park a car without the windows being smashed, can't have a job because the businesses are closed because of crime.

Catch and release, this is why the current DA lost his job.

 

"The police are not here to create disorder, they're here to preserve disorder." - The Honorable Richard J. Daley

 

​

 

​

 

Tell me about it, I came from that world in Liverpool. What I meant though is that many people do not care about impacting other people, so I'm referring to the drugged up people, the car thieves, the muggers, the squatters, the loud, these people don't care and there are far more of them around these days than in the 60s or 70s.

Those people have always existed but our general tolerance for them in 'polite' society has not. This tolerance is a failed experiment that will lead IMO to a backlash of lack of tolerance in future generations.
This where it was headed before even the people of Portland said, NO!

This does not work to save lives, it only enables the progression of drug use, crime and the general destruction of a polite society.

https://apnews.com/article/portland...ney-election-430d10da16f9446201925e940d715d98

Generally, progressive district attorneys such as Schmidt support finding alternatives to imprisonment and refraining from prosecuting low-level crimes to reduce incarceration rates and address social inequities in the criminal justice system.

This just does not work. it was given a good chance but it was and is, a total failure.

 

Generally, progressive district attorneys such as Schmidt support finding alternatives to imprisonment and refraining from prosecuting low-level crimes to reduce incarceration rates and address social inequities in the criminal justice system.

This just does not work. it was given a good chance but it was a total failure.

Right .... the alternative to reduce incarceration is execution, which is no alternative at all, and the way to "address social inequities" is through education and discipline when young, and not looking the other way when it's too late ... those idiots only took backward steps in their "progressive" way of thinking

 

...so I'm referring to the drugged up people, the car thieves, the muggers, the squatters, the loud...

You forgot the lawyers and career politicians.

 

You forgot the lawyers and career politicians.

Those that really profit from the homeless/drug addiction industrial complex.
https://medium.com/@noravandijk150/the-homeless-industrial-complex-in-america-43b74926eb6d

In cities all over the U.S., there’s a growing problem — too many people are homeless. This problem is huge and hard to solve, and it’s forcing more and more people to live on the streets. This is a big challenge for big cities. To fight this, cities are spending a lot of money, billions of dollars, on different projects to help. But this big problem has created a weird situation — a whole industry has popped up around homelessness, with lots of companies trying to make money from government contracts to deal with it.

This situation raises a big question: Are these companies that are making money from this really committed to solving homelessness for good? Let’s look at Austin, where they just opened a new place for homeless people to live. They only built 49 apartments, but each one cost a shocking $739,000.

Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, the budget for homeless services went from $63 million in 2015 to an unbelievable $880 million in 2022 — that’s 13 times more in just seven years! But even with all this money spent, the number of homeless people in Los Angeles has gone up by 56%.

 

To a large extent "these people" are a product of society. The US is a country where the words "lose" or "fail" are not part of polite discourse, there are "winners" and whatever dregs are left, we don't dwell on these.

The so-called "American dream" is a myth, the reality was always there but swept under the carpet. A "loser" is a victim of themselves, their choices, it's rooted in early puritanism that characterized US Christianity starting in the mid 1600s. Today we see the derivative ideology in US evangelicalism, the so called "prosperity gospel".

In this belief system success is a reward for being obedient to God and failure likewise, is the result of disobedience, it's a rather primitive and selfish form of Christianity but it runs parallel to the US "winner" and "loser" view of society.

You've been IMO brainwashed by progressive media into thinking all of America is like that. Most of America away from the coastal elite concentrations don't live in that world of no winners and losers. I live 20 miles out of Portland in a small city that won't let Portland values invade. We don't have homeless camps or passed out druggies in the street. Kids can go to parks and new stores are opening, instead of closing and people here care, not because of some religion, they care and act accordingly because it's the right thing to do.

 

If you want to dismissively attribute my opinions to "brainwashing" so be it, I was just trying have a discussion with you, but the insults are never far away are they. In a real intellectual discussion one focuses on the correctness or otherwise of what the other person is saying, compares it to facts and so on, not on the perceived personal traits of the person.

I don't say that as a insult, media concentrates on the bad, the weird and the stories that reinforces X point of view. I respect your IMO uninformed opinion about America in general but it's not a correct assessment of most of the country.