Yup, we are one of those that won the biggest lottery ever!
Max.

 

Ottowa is presently in a quandry on whether to allow the the spouses of ISIS to return to Canada as they a afraid for their kids lives.
I see Britain has refused to grant a young girls plea for repatriation and the US are asking allies to bring ISIS prisoners home for repatriation!

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/vote-canadian-government-bring-isis-spouses-home-syria-155636053.html

Max.

If a person, of their own free will, joined enemy forces in active combat they would be shot on the battlefield or tried as a traitor and jailed for lesser crimes of indirect support and aid. I don't have a problem with taking them back on a case by case basis but there must be strict conditions on their movements and penalties for their past behaviors if it was short of high treason. People who commit treason can go to hell.

 

There are many of the previous and current high office holders and employees that should be under treason charges now.

It's all so phony. Especially the so called security services.

 

There are many of the previous and current high office holders and employees that should be under treason charges now.

It's all so phony. Especially the so called security services.

Treason has a VERY specific meaning so it's foolish to use charges of treason in a political theater.

Treasonous acts may be criminal, but criminal acts are almost never treason.

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/articles/article-iii

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

 

It was an act of war. It was the highest act of war. Much more infamous than a sneak attack.

 

It was an act of war. It was the highest act of war. Much more infamous than a sneak attack.

Be specific ... What act?

 

If a person, of their own free will, joined enemy forces in active combat they would be shot on the battlefield or tried as a traitor and jailed for lesser crimes of indirect support and aid. I don't have a problem with taking them back on a case by case basis but there must be strict conditions on their movements and penalties for their past behaviors if it was short of high treason. People who commit treason can go to hell.

I say let them rot. You made your choice now live with it. Knowing there are no do overs just might keep someone else from doing the same thing. There are WAY too many people in this world worthy of our compassion and may never have a chance to get it.

 

I say let them rot. You made your choice now live with it. Knowing there are no do overs just might keep someone else from doing the same thing. There are WAY too many people in this world worthy of our compassion and may never have a chance to get it.

While I agree with your statement, I also think that a fundamental fact that should be taken into account when passing judgment would be the offender's age. It's not the same to join a terrorist group at 25 than it would be at 15. In the case of the latter, I'd say there would still be a sliver of hope of atonement.

 

Today's 15 year olds......are 25. Probably 30.

 

I wasn't sure which thread to post this at. In the end, I decided that it belonged here:

https://www.texasmonthly.com/list/the-secret-history-of-texas-music/the-way-1998/

As this story unfolded in his mind, he began crafting some lyrics, pairing the words with a minor-key melody. At the chorus, he switched to a major chord, to capture the fanciful triumph he imagined for the couple: they had found a way to cheat death and live on.

 

While I agree with your statement, I also think that a fundamental fact that should be taken into account when passing judgment would be the offender's age. It's not the same to join a terrorist group at 25 than it would be at 15. In the case of the latter, I'd say there would still be a sliver of hope of atonement.

At 15 you deserve a second chance if you steal a car or rob a gas station. Murder someone or join a a group that murders and terrorizes, you don't deserve a second chance. You are well beyond the age of knowing what is right or wrong at 15.

 

You are well beyond the age of knowing what is right or wrong at 15.

I disagree... at that age, it's extremely easy to manipulate someone ... but let's leave it at that ...

 

I wasn't sure which thread to post this at. In the end, I decided that it belonged here:

https://www.texasmonthly.com/list/the-secret-history-of-texas-music/the-way-1998/

That is spooky. Because ran across this song again after hearing it years ago. After all of those years I realized I never really heard it until just the other day. It was just a sorty about some kid that jumped off of a bridge. and then it hit me. It really isn't a song about the kid that killed himself. Rather the indifference his sucicide was meeet with.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...onvicted-of-killing-us-soldier-in-afghanistan
Max.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...onvicted-of-killing-us-soldier-in-afghanistan
Max.

I am speechless but not surprised. Congrat Canadian courts, you just opened a huge can of worms that you didn't want to open.

 

I am speechless but nut surprised. Congrat Canadian courts, you just opened a huge can of worms that you didn't want to open.

And now the genie can't be put back in the bottle...

 

I am speechless but nut surprised. Congrat Canadian courts, you just opened a huge can of worms that you didn't want to open.

I see the positive side. It gives a great incentive in the field to just drop another bomb on the terrorist instead of trying to capture them.

 

I worked with and knew Americans that had fled to Canada to escape the draft.
Many got married and had kids here.
Other were talking of going back once they could receive amnesty.

My take on it is, I believe they have the right to leave a county, community, whatever, if they cannot find resolve for themselves on the decisions made by the majority.
But once things have reverted to the way they were and in the mean time those that stayed paid the price, often with their lives. Then they have no case for re-admissibility or return.
Max.
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I would support a path to redemption, to regain citizenship, especially for minors. But it shouldn't be easy and I'd base it more on the citizens here that want their wayward loved-one back. If my grandson loses his mind at age 15 and wants to come back a few years later, I'd like to think he could earn his way back.

 

And now the genie can't be put back in the bottle...

Can you imagine? So what is the definition of duress? If a detective speaks harshly to a suspect, is that duress? Criminals are set to make millions.