Her Wiki page was edited for a while this morning. Listed her position as “poor sport.”

It appears as though she has an obsessive personality ... so many, many things to be grateful for, and yet she doesn't appreciate them.

I just watched the movie "Moneyball", btw. An excellent tale of what one can accomplish in times of crisis when keeping an open mind.

 

It appears as though she has an obsessive personality ... so many, many things to be grateful for, and yet she doesn't appreciate them.

I just watched the movie "Moneyball", btw. An excellent tale of what one can accomplish in times of crisis when keeping an open mind.

There is another possibility, she's a Vampire. Can't expect them to have 'sportspersonship' where silver is involved.

 

Such poor sportsmanship.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ly-yanks-silver-medal-off-her-neck/362132002/

Agreed. I think describing her as "yanking" the medal off is overdone. She didn't seem like she was throwing a tantrum or deliberating calling attention to herself, but still very poor style.

For those at the top of their sport, it's probably pretty easy to get a feeling of entitlement. For those that expect Gold and don't achieve it, I can see that it must be a huge disappointment. They need to spend some time on reflecting on the vast majority of people that have earned the right to compete in the Olympics and who won't make it past the first round of competition in their sport, which for many was their Olympic dream -- or simply not to come in last. The possibility of losing is part of the price of admission, and graciousness in defeat tells as much about a person as humbleness in victory. Some poor losers are mad only at themselves and their performance -- they hold no ranker at the person that beat them. I can tolerate those people pretty well and just wish that they learned to control their emotions better. But others ARE mad at whoever beats them and those people I have a hard time tolerating at all. I don't know what lies underneath this person's actions.

 

Agreed. I think describing her as "yanking" the medal off is overdone. She didn't seem like she was throwing a tantrum or deliberating calling attention to herself, but still very poor style.

For those at the top of their sport, it's probably pretty easy to get a feeling of entitlement. For those that expect Gold and don't achieve it, I can see that it must be a huge disappointment. They need to spend some time on reflecting on the vast majority of people that have earned the right to compete in the Olympics and who won't make it past the first round of competition in their sport, which for many was their Olympic dream -- or simply not to come in last. The possibility of losing is part of the price of admission, and graciousness in defeat tells as much about a person as humbleness in victory. Some poor losers are mad only at themselves and their performance -- they hold no ranker at the person that beat them. I can tolerate those people pretty well and just wish that they learned to control their emotions better. But others ARE mad at whoever beats them and those people I have a hard time tolerating at all. I don't know what lies underneath this person's actions.

Not to sound mediocre... but I think the mere fact that an athlete qualified for the olympics is a very good reason to be grateful, medal or no medal involved

 

There is another possibility, she's a Vampire. Can't expect them to have 'sportspersonship' where silver is involved.

Isn't that for Werwolf's, holy water and wooden stakes for Vampires, Zombies get the double tap to the head.

kv

 

Agreed. I think describing her as "yanking" the medal off is overdone. She didn't seem like she was throwing a tantrum or deliberating calling attention to herself, but still very poor style.

I agree that "yanking" was overdone. I would have said she removed the medal like it was red-hot and radioactive then refuse to wear it until ordered by an Olympic official.

 

Isn't that for Werwolf's, holy water and wooden stakes for Vampires, Zombies get the double tap to the head.

kv

You don't know your Twilight movie Vampire history?

 

Not to sound mediocre... but I think the mere fact that an athlete qualified for the olympics is a very good reason to be grateful, medal or no medal involved

For you and me, that sounds quite reasonable. But we have to keep in mind that pretty much part and parcel with making it to the Olympics (or making it into virtually any professional sport) is a driven personality for which winning is what it is all about. They aren't there to have fun, they are their to win. That's usually true even for the guy that knows that he probably IS going to come in last, but it is especially true for the people that expect to finish first. The overwhelming majority of people with that kind of drive means don't take losing well, but most have enough losing in their background to at least have learned to mask their outward displays adequately.

 

You don't know your Twilight movie Vampire history?

Time to step up my game, go out and by some .9999 silver and make some bullets. I would be prepared for anything, including the Zombie Apocalypse.

I wonder if Nancy Pelosi eats with Silverware.

kv

Edit: If she lives I can cross her off my list.

 

I agree that "yanking" was overdone. I would have said she removed the medal like it was red-hot and radioactive then refuse to wear it until ordered by an Olympic official.

So far I've only seen the snippet where she actually removed it and nothing beyond that. Refusing to put it back on until ordered to do so is certainly a further display of poor sportsmanship -- and one that goes beyond the emotion-of-the-moment associated with actually receiving it. I guess one point in her direction is that she DID put it back on when ordered; she could have been petulant and refused to do so.

According to the hacked bio that was posted she's 29. You would hope that she's old enough to control herself by the time she get to that age. In many of these sports the people competing are very young, even teenagers, and it can be hard for us to remember that not only are they still kids, but that in most cases they have led quite sheltered lives because their sport has been the entire focus of their existence since they were quite young and started showing real promise. But 29 is at least a tad old to still be in that mold.

 

For you and me, that sounds quite reasonable. But we have to keep in mind that pretty much part and parcel with making it to the Olympics (or making it into virtually any professional sport) is a driven personality for which winning is what it is all about. They aren't there to have fun, they are their to win. That's usually true even for the guy that knows that he probably IS going to come in last, but it is especially true for the people that expect to finish first. The overwhelming majority of people with that kind of drive means don't take losing well, but most have enough losing in their background to at least have learned to mask their outward displays adequately.

My son loves to practice parkour and free-running. He spends a lot of time watching videos of his heroes, championships and competitions. Although he loves to practice that sport, he knows that he'll never be on the same level as those guys, and that he'd never qualify for a competition. But that doesn't stop him from practicing and continuously trying to improve his skills.

I agree that the aim of any athlete (or an engineer, etc) in a competition should and must be going for the win. Otherwise what's the point of joining the race in the first place? But I feel sad for anyone who in the passion of the moment gives in to frustration and yanks a silver medal from his/her neck... I find it borderline disrespectful... that's bad form for oneself, and a bad example for those watching who may one day want to join the sport.

 

Lets look at the good side.
The US winning goal was sick!
https://twitter.com/NBCOlympics/status/966573091441823744?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2018/2/22/17039482/usa-vs-canada-2018-olympics-womens-hockey-jocelyne-lamoureux

 

Lets look at the good side.
The US winning goal was sick!
https://twitter.com/NBCOlympics/status/966573091441823744?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2018/2/22/17039482/usa-vs-canada-2018-olympics-womens-hockey-jocelyne-lamoureux

I just hate this....

 

My son loves to practice parkour and free-running. He spends a lot of time watching videos of his heroes, championships and competitions. Although he loves to practice that sport, he knows that he'll never be on the same level as those guys, and that he'd never qualify for a competition. But that doesn't stop him from practicing and continuously trying to improve his skills.

I agree that the aim of any athlete (or an engineer, etc) in a competition should and must be going for the win. Otherwise what's the point of joining the race in the first place? But I feel sad for anyone who in the passion of the moment gives in to frustration and yanks a silver medal from his/her neck... I find it borderline disrespectful... that's bad form for oneself, and a bad example for those watching who may one day want to join the sport.

When I was on active duty I realized that there are basically three types of people when it comes to games and winning. You have people like my stepmom. For her any game is a social occasion and she doesn't care at all whether she wins or even whether she plays particularly well. She doesn't pay much attention to the game, it's all about the opportunity for social interaction that the game affords. Then you have people like engineers (and lots of other groups of people fall into this category). The goal is to win, but the important thing is to play well. The game is about the opportunity to practice and display a skill to the best of one's ability and while losing is perfectly acceptable, they play to win. Most would rather lose a hard-fought game to a better opponent than win an easy game to an inferior opponent. Then you have people like fighter pilots and professional athletes. Not only do they play to win, that's the ONLY reason to play and the only outcome that is acceptable. Many of these folks are NOT good losers and they will do whatever it takes, including cheating, to win. And it doesn't matter what the game is.

The reason I learned this on active duty was that one of the gals in our sister shop was married to a fighter pilot and when we were at some party at someone's house and playing a game he would cheat to win, and when he lost anyway he would not be too pleasant (though I'm sure he thought he maintained his composure beautifully). I've seen it time and time again, both in person and in coverage of things.

I remember reading an article about the golf games between John Elway and Mike Shanahan. Here were these two close friends out for a friendly game of gold and it seemed to always involve all kinds of cheating by both of them because neither could stand to lose. But this is just the way it was -- afterward, there were no hard feelings about the cheating and though there might be hard feelings about the losing for a while, that was completely separate from their friendship and never endangered that.

That's probably one reason why you never see a real effort to penalize cheating in sports -- because the people involved in the sport don't really see it as something bad except to the degree that it causes bad publicity and they probably have a hard time understanding why it should cause even that. They probably hate having to discipline someone for doing something that they know they would have done in their place in a heartbeat if only they thought they could do it without getting caught.

 

In looking up some other stuff, came across this:

 

In looking up some other stuff, came across this:

Sometimes....

.... it's about two leggy girls in skimpy clothing hugging each other...

 

Sometimes....

.... it's about two leggy girls in skimpy clothing hugging eachother...

Yeah... that's beautiful too...

 

The Bad News Bears with brooms.

https://www.theringer.com/olympics/...shuster-united-states-curling-winter-olympics

A seemingly average guy—he has worked as a bartender and used to manage a restaurant, now he works for Dick’s Sporting Goods—Shuster is thrust onto the national stage every four years, and every four years, he has publicly disappointed. But locked deep inside him has been a tremendous talent, the one that has sent him back to the Olympics time after time even as every beer leaguer in America has called for his head. Now, finally, he’s showing it.

 

The science of curling from my buddy Destin:

 

I've read Jocelyne Larocque's apology and she said all the right words, some of which make me willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that she might actually mean them. But that's a weak assumption because how many times have we seen people from all walks issue apologies that contained all the right words but their subsequent words and actions clearly showed that they didn't mean at all?

The best outcome I can hope for is that people (hopefully including her) learn something about how not to behave.

What's sad is the number of people applauding her actions. At least the seem to be in the very small minority.