The war on cops, another chapter

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All the streets in my sector are named after birds and flowers, which is very strange in a county where 90% of the streets and avenues are numbered in a Cartesian grid. Named streets are so rare that there is an area called The President Circles. You guessed it! All the streets form concentric circles and are named for presidents. I live in the, "birds and flowers" area. Then there is the Jungle area, the Lighthouse area, the Nautical area...
 
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In today's news, the Solano (California) County District Attorney has dropped charges after 16 months of threatening to try a man for Felony Driving under the Influence of Caffeine. This was started by an Alcoholic Beverage agent who was butthurt about being cut off in traffic. At the same time, a Polusbo, Washington officer, so drunk that he puked on himself, was not charged.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/dui-caffeine-charges-dropped/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-refuse-arrest-deputy-admitted-driving-drunk-body-cam-video/

In another story an officer saved a child from drowning while not turning off his body camera.:)
Unfortunately, this is in contrast to two events where the cops just stood and watched while other people drowned. :(
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/body-camera-police-drowning-boy/
 

shortbus

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So, why didn't the officers get charged with violating the civil rights? After all, you are implying they violated the constitution.
This is the on going law enforcement over all else mindset in practice. They are hired to arrest not execute. As time has gone by it is just getting worse. Even though you and your side in all of these type of debates won't allow that it is true. Just look at the fact of the FBI never has a "bad" shoot. They investigate themselves and never find against themselves. And that mentality has 'trickled down' to all law enforcement. I just hope and pray that neither you or nsa ever have a child or grandchild that gets in the "wrong place wrong time" situation. But then you guys would probably still say the cops were right.
 

nsaspook

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They are hired to arrest not execute.
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They investigate themselves and never find against themselves.
If the thug had just stopped resisting arrest with an illegal gun then the thug would have just been arrested. It was totally on him, not the police in this case.

Don't make 'never' statements when the facts are so easy to find. Same week as the police-involved shooting of Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/02/16/philando-castile-case/97994328/
St. Anthony, Minn., police Officer Jeronimo Yanez is charged with second-degree manslaughter and two counts of dangerous discharge of a firearm in the July 6 shooting of Philando Castile.
or
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ting-autistic-man-s-unarmed-therapist-n745716
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...da-womans-accidental-shooting-death/98269012/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...fficer-murder-charges-met-20170118-story.html
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...ng-Death-Outside-Union-Station-414088473.html
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...ns-in-Another-Police-Shooting--362550901.html

There are too many bad cop shootings for sure but don't use a scum-bag criminal thug like Alton Sterling to make a point about those killings. It completely makes you look foolish.
 

shortbus

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If the thug had just stopped resisting arrest with an illegal gun then the thug would have just been arrested. It was totally on him, not the police in this case.
Talking about facts, how does him having a gun in his pants pocket, not out not pointing it at the cops justify them shooting him after they get him on the ground? They never saw him with a gun, it was just reported that he had a gun.
"A loaded .38 caliber revolver was in Sterling's right front pocket"

"The arresting officers were not aware of Alton Sterling's record at the time of the shooting."

"Muflahi said, "Sterling never wielded the gun or threatened the officers"

"The owner of the store where the shooting occurred, Abdullah Muflahi, said that Sterling had started carrying a gun a few days prior to the event as other CD vendors had been robbed recently. Muflahi also said that Sterling was "not the one causing trouble" during the situation that led to the police being called"

"The police officers involved in the shooting were Howie Lake II and Blane Salamoni. Lake had three years of law enforcement experience which included a previous shooting of an African-American male. He was subsequently placed on a department-mandated leave; Salamoni had four years of experience.[8] Salamoni and Lake had both been previously investigated and cleared by their department for allegedly having used excessive force"

All quotes from, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Alton_Sterling
 

nsaspook

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"The arresting officers were not aware of Alton Sterling's record at the time of the shooting."
Even better because they were not prejudging him by knowledge his previous crimes and actions. He was shot and killed only because of the criminal stupidity of his actions with the police on that call. That's a plus for the officers and another negative for the dead thug.
http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...cle_9cdf562a-303f-11e7-be30-6fef3e54cb3a.html

"I don't think I can say it any better than the United States Attorney said it: There was a thorough, exhaustive and long investigation and it was unanimous," said John McLindon, an attorney representing Salamoni. "Every agent that worked on this case said that there was not enough evidence here to prosecute. That's what I always felt belonged and it was good to hear it from the government."
The DOJ detailed explanation of what happened during the 90-second encounter between Salamoni and Officer Howie Lake II and Sterling notes that after an initial struggle Salamoni pulled out his gun and pointed it at Sterling's head in order to get him to place his hands on the hood of a car. An attorney representing the Sterling family said they were told by federal investigators that in that moment Salamoni said, "I'm going to kill you, bitch."
This is about the time most criminal thugs would stop struggling and surrender.

"If that's on the video, the government didn't feel like it warranted a prosecution," McLindon said, while noting Acting U.S. Attorney Corey Amundson said the government used two national use-of-force experts who also reached the conclusion that federal civil rights charges could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
He was just a stupid criminal who committed suicide by cop.
Sterling was accused of breaking into a woman’s apartment by making a hole in the wall, and then trying to sell her goldfish for $20.
 
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nsaspook

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This and the "blond" comment earlier makes you look like your playing to TCM. Like him disagreeing is not something you take well, whats next swearing and calling names?
I was being nice to you both times, sort of like helping an old lady across the street while she's ranting about the end of the world.
 

nsaspook

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...dy-cam-footage-prosecutors-drop-drug-charges/
Prosecutors in Pueblo, Colorado are dropping felony drug and weapon-possession charges after an officer involved in the case said he staged body cam footage so he could walk "the courts through" the vehicle search that led to the arrest.

The development means that defendant Joseph Cajar, 36, won't be prosecuted on allegations of heroin possession and of unlawful possession of a handgun. The evidence of the contraband was allegedly found during a search of Cajar's vehicle, which was towed after he couldn't provide an officer registration or insurance during a traffic stop. Officer Seth Jensen said he found about seven grams of heroin and a .357 Magnum in the vehicle at the tow yard. But the actual footage of the search that he produced in court was a reenactment of the search, the officer told prosecutors.
Light, Camera, Action, take #2.
 

shortbus

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I was being nice to you both times, sort of like helping an old lady across the street while she's ranting about the end of the world.
Well then, help this "old lady" again please.

Please explain something I've never been able to wrap my head around, from the earliest age with my old man. what is the reasoning behind always being negative, only looking out for only yourself, wanting to take as much from others as you can get? I could go on with examples but that seems to be enough to start with. Purely only thinking in a republican way, seems to me, from my own experiences over the years to make people that think in that way to end up as very miserable and truly unhappy in life.

In 69 years on this planet, all of the people that only think of themselves and not others aren't truly happy with themselves or their life. They are always thinking, they aren't 'rich' enough, they don't have a big enough car, house, or what ever to be satisfied. And in almost every instance the are republican party loyalist to the core of their being. And all the while they miss out on what life has to offer.
 

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wayneh

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Wow. You need to get out more. I'm conservative by most measures (other than religion) and that tends to get me labeled Republican even though the party leaves me cold. But anyway, the only people I know that are chronically miserable are all on the left. I retired at 51 and have been having a blast ever since. Sports, hobbies, the arts, travel - I do them all. I know plenty of fellow 'republicans' that are likewise self-sufficient and couldn't be more content with the lives they've built for themselves. The lefty friends I know live in rooms they rent from my righty friends, spend every cent they make (and more), bitch about their jobs, work until they die because they lived beyond their means for their whole lives, never do anything creative or fun besides gambling, and are generally not much fun to hang with. Yes, I can call them friends and share a few interests with them but, say, plan a vacation with them? Not a chance.
 
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