The war on cops, another chapter

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#12

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The police unions are going for the gold. Direct action to repeal The Constitution for them.
Police Unions Head To DC To Ask New President, Attorney General To Stop Making Cops Respect The Constitution
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...o-stop-making-cops-respect-constitution.shtml

The other point of view?
SWAT teams crashing through doors. Militarized police shooting unarmed citizens. Traffic cops tasering old men and pregnant women for not complying fast enough with an order. Resource officers shackling children for acting like children. Citizens being jailed for growing vegetable gardens in their front yards and holding prayer services in their backyards. Drivers having their cash seized under the pretext that they might have done something wrong.

The list of abuses being perpetrated against the American people by their government is growing rapidly.

We are approaching critical mass.

http://www.rutherford.org/publicati...ute_force_the_true_nature_of_government_short

And another story of Blue Privilege:
Cop’s Fmr Police Dog Let Loose, Mauls Woman & Kills a Man — No Charges against Officer
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-former-k9-escapes-kills-man/


Move along now. Nothing to see here.
 

shortbus

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And the TV ads claiming Sessions to be a "fighter for civil rights" is funny, if it wasn't so tragic. But then, hey if it makes some people in this thread happy who am I to complain.
 

nsaspook

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http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/national/article131419189.html
A Miami man beat a murder rap — thanks to a woman's vaginal pain.

Prosecutors dropped the case Tuesday after Elias Cadoza presented an unusual alibi: Around the time of a fatal drive-by last October in Little Havana, he was actually at home calling 911 for his sister, who fell ill with extreme gynecological discomfort.
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Cadoza, 21, who was arrested in November, always denied being involved in the murder.

The Miami-Dade state attorney's office held off formally charging Cadoza, though he sat in jail for more than two months before he was released. D'Escoubet turned to private investigator Frank Miranda, who found the paramedics, one of whom provided a sworn statement to prosecutors.
 

nsaspook

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http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/16/16-10312-CV0.pdf

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...-rules-you-have-the-right-to-film-the-police/
A divided federal appeals court is ruling for the First Amendment, saying the public has a right to film the police. But the 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals, in upholding the bulk of a lower court's decision against an activist who was conducting what he called a "First Amendment audit" outside a Texas police station, noted that this right is not absolute and is not applicable everywhere.

The facts of the dispute are simple. Phillip Turner was 25 in September 2015 when he decided to go outside the Fort Worth police department to test officers' knowledge of the right to film the police. While filming, he was arrested for failing to identify himself to the police. Officers handcuffed and briefly held Turner before releasing him without charges. Turner sued, alleging violations of his Fourth Amendment right against unlawful arrest and detention and his First Amendment right of speech.
Seems like a good decision.
 

#12

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I totally agree there is a deadly serious problem but there is zero actual evidence low I.Q. is the root problem of police misconduct.
When I recall the number of cops I have met that didn't know the law they were talking about and the cops that had never read The Constitution which they swore to defend, I can only conclude they are too stupid to learn their job. You say it is for different reasons. If trying for proper education is, "tilting at windmills" please suggest what to tilt at that will get people who are intentionally selected for low I.Q. to learn their jobs.
 

nsaspook

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When I recall the number of cops I have met that didn't know the law they were talking about and the cops that had never read The Constitution which they swore to defend, I can only conclude they are too stupid to learn their job. You say it is for different reasons. If trying for proper education is, "tilting at windmills" please suggest what to tilt at that will get people who are intentionally selected for low I.Q. to learn their jobs.
With selection for higher I.Q. you only get smarter bad cops not less bad cops. Like I've said before, for some reason you seem to attract or interact with a large number of bad cops. If that attraction is true it won't change if the cops are dumb or smart.
 

#12

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Supreme Court rules in Favor of Incompetence
The police don't need to have enough I.Q. to learn their jobs. So says the Supreme Court.
Or, if you want to put that in terms of "bad cop/ good cop", the bad cops only have to plead stupidity to win in court.

"Acting contrary to the venerable principle that “ignorance of the law is no excuse,” the Court ruled that evidence obtained by police during a traffic stop that was not legally justified can be used to prosecute the person if police were reasonably mistaken that the person had violated the law."

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/su...zens-protection-violations-cops-ignorant-law/
 

nsaspook

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Supreme Court rules in Favor of Incompetence
As usual the truth of the matter is a little more nuanced than what's being told at a biased website.

8-1 on any decision is a good sign they got it pretty close to right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heien_v._North_Carolina
Sergeant Darisse believed that it was a violation of North Carolina traffic law to drive a vehicle with a broken brake light, so he activated his blue lights and stopped Vasquez (observing that as he did so, the right brake light "flickered on").[2]:2 Sergeant Darisse informed Vasquez and Heien that he had stopped them for a broken brake light.

During the stop, Sergeant Darisse began to suspect the vehicle might contain contraband. His suspicion increased when Vasquez and Heien claimed, in separate questioning, that they were traveling to different ultimate destinations. Sergeant Darisse then asked Vasquez if he could search the vehicle.[2]:3 Vasquez said he should ask Heien, who said he "d[id]n't really care".[1]:3–4 The ensuing search found cocaine.
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On appeal the North Carolina Court of Appeals reversed. After careful analysis of the North Carolina statute governing brake lights, the Court of Appeals concluded that it required only one working "stop lamp". Heien's left brake light was functional, so his right brake light's dysfunction did not constitute a violation. It also concluded that separate statutory language requiring all "originally equipped rear lamps [be] in good working order" didn't apply to stop lamps. The Court of Appeals then concluded that the stop violated the Fourth Amendment, explaining that "an officer's mistaken belief that a defendant has committed a traffic violation is not an objectively reasonable justification for a traffic stop". The Court of Appeals then held that evidence from the search had to be suppressed under the exclusionary rule. (While federal courts and some state courts recognized a good-faith exception to the rule for officers acting in good faith, the North Carolina Supreme Court had previously explicitly declined to recognize it.)[1]:4–5
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The Court published its opinion on December 15, 2014, affirming the lower court by an 8-1 vote.[5] Chief Justice Roberts authored the majority opinion, with Justice Kagan filing a concurring opinion in which Justice Ginsburg joined, and Justice Sotomayor filing a dissenting opinion. The majority held that a police officer's reasonable mistake of law can indeed provide the individualized suspicion required by the Fourth Amendment to justify a traffic stop based upon that understanding. In her concurring opinion, Kagan wrote that the full text of North Carolina's law "poses a quite difficult question of interpretation, and Sergeant Darisse’s judgment, although overturned, had much to recommend it". In her dissent, Sotomayor argued that the reasonableness of a search or seizure should instead be determined by evaluating "an officer's understanding of the facts against the actual state of the law."[6][7]
One brake light out instead of two. Seems the Court of Appeals created a new interpretation after the fact so the cops look to be blameless in this matter. Another bogus cop bashing article out of many.
 

#12

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Another bogus cop bashing article out of many.
Don't worry. There are thousands of cop bashing articles that are true.
1600 posts in this Thread? You must have seen some of the true articles.

Meanwhile, I am going to practice up pleading stupidity and see if that excuses my behavior.
 

#12

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Here's where the arrests and convictions are posted:
https://www.policemisconduct.net/

This is from just one day of reports:
possession with intent to distribute after drugs were found in his patrol car.
charged with assault and kidnapping
charged with 50 counts of child pornography possession.
charged with 99 counts of misconduct
after pleading to drug charges. He was serving as a school resource officer
referred to Black Lives Matter protesters as “target practice.”
shooting at Grand Rapids, Michigan officer while the agent was off-duty.
 
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