Meanwhile, I'm beginning to see a sprinkling of cops losing their own money for their misbehavior.
https://photographyisnotacrime.com/...-for-man-left-paralyzed-in-wrongful-shooting/
http://www.copblock.org/170922/judg...nity-montana-deputies-lawsuit-fatal-shooting/
http://www.copblock.org/168467/beat...e-property-officers-false-murder-convictions/

Good, I'm all for lawful judgments on individuals.

 

Good, I'm all for lawful judgments on individuals.

Yes and no. If you make a mistake on your job because your employer didn't train you properly, are YOU the guilty one? I suppose in these particular cases the cops acted against policy and their training, so maybe it's a more solid "yes". But there is a fine line there somewhere.

 

Yes and no. If you make a mistake on your job because your employer didn't train you properly, are YOU the guilty one? I suppose in these particular cases the cops acted against policy and their training, so maybe it's a more solid "yes". But there is a fine line there somewhere.

Most of the real police abuses are not from a lack of training. Training can't be used as a cover for improper or stupid behavior on the job.

 

Most of the real police abuses are not from a lack of training. Training can't be used as a cover for improper or stupid behavior on the job.

I can't disagree, but if the person choosing which cops to hire is choosing stupid ones, and allowing them to stay on the job, there should be some liability to that when things go south.

 

if the person choosing which cops to hire is choosing stupid ones,

That was established earlier in this Thread. The 2nd District Court said it is legal, proper, and S.O.P. to select for low I.Q. in their, "hunter-killer"...no, "protect and serve" employees.

Stupidity plays a role when, for instance, I met a retired cop who never read The Constitution in the 20 years he swore to defend it. Worse problems come from "Badge Bullies" and rootin' tootin' shoot 'em up Cowboy types.

Post Katrina, New Orleans Police Station briefing: "We have to take back our city." (From whom? A Hurricane?) And the Coyboy cops go kill three guys delivering drinking water for no imaginable reason.

These idiots pretend to quake with terror at old ladies jaywalking, then they go punk some kids for standing on the corner. "Possible gun" means open season on the first person they see. Free kill. "Go get your bite" he says to the dog.

These are the problem cops. Arrogance is almost universal. Blood lust is the only possible explanation for SWAT teams kicking down doors at 5 am and spraying anybody that moves and half the people that don't move. This $h17 has got to stop, but the Grand Juries are not allowed to hear testimony of the victims and District Attorneys refuse to charge cops when they know it was murder. (Albuquerque DA just a few days ago.)

As I said, it isn't "corruption at the highest levels", it's corruption at every level.
I'm happy to see some progress lately, but you and I know it would never have even started to change if cameras weren't ubiquitous nowadays.
Let's watch as see if The Surveillance State can protect the Citizens from the Government Enforcers.

 

That was established earlier in this Thread. The 2nd District Court said it is legal, proper, and S.O.P. to select for low I.Q. in their, "hunter-killer"...no, "protect and serve" employees.

Just when you start to make sense you jump back on the I.Q. crap-wagon.

 

Just when you start to make sense you jump back on the I.Q. crap-wagon.

That was wayneh that brought up "choosing stupid ones" or "jumping on the crap wagon". If you don't like the fact that this is common practice, defended by a court ruling, you can appeal to whatever court is above the one that made the ruling. Tell THEM about their crap wagon. Here's the decision:

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT
SUMMARY ORDER

http://zimmer.csufresno.edu/~haralds/Articles/jordan.htm

If you don't like the truth, do something about it.
If you don't like reading about the truth, quit reading it.

 

If you don't like the truth, do something about it.
If you don't like reading about the truth, quit reading it.

#12, you didn't apply the new supreme leader translator to this before posting. Be more cautious in further posting.

 

That was wayneh that brought up "choosing stupid ones" or "jumping on the crap wagon". If you don't like the fact that this is common practice, defended by a court ruling, you can appeal to whatever court is above the one that made the ruling. Tell THEM about their crap wagon. Here's the decision:

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT
SUMMARY ORDER

http://zimmer.csufresno.edu/~haralds/Articles/jordan.htm

If you don't like the truth, do something about it.
If you don't like reading about the truth, quit reading it.

We've been round this 10 times already. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills

 

If you make a mistake on your job because your employer didn't train you properly, are YOU the guilty one?

Yes. To wit, Lt Calley and all his men who followed his order.

 

Just when you start to make sense you jump back on the I.Q. crap-wagon.

I've thought about this for a day and here's my conclusion. When I found that, "Low IQ LEOs" was a District Court ruling, the only thing that surprised me was that it is valid in all 50 states. Before that I had been praying I was wrong. I was hoping I was just in the wrong places when I spoke with police officers, but the wrong places included all 4 states where I have lived.

Personal Experience + Court Ruling = reality.

I don't know who appointed you to the position of police apologist or asked you to defend the indefensible. I think you took up that job all by yourself. I will tell you this: Claiming my personal experience and the U.S. District court are both wrong isn't going to change reality. Most cops on the beat don't know the law they are talking about and some of them didn't read the U.S. Constitution in their decades of experience "defending" it. The proof is on the Internet every day.

You have the right to keep on believing it isn't happening every day, even when you see new and different videos every day. Repeatedly quoting me seems like you are addressing me, but addressing me won't change the facts. Addressing me will not stop the flood of videos proving there is a serious problem.

 

I've thought about this for a day and here's my conclusion. When I found that, "Low IQ LEOs" was a District Court ruling, the only thing that surprised me was that it is valid in all 50 states.

While that ruling was specific to New London CT, and it is available for use in all 50 states, does that mean it is used by the major cities?

from: http://wonderlictestsample.com/what-is-the-wonderlic-test-used-for/
What is the Wonderlic Test Used For?


Wonderlic has 30 tests that are used by businesses, schools, the armed services and even the NFL for selection and placement purposes. These tests measure those aptitudes, skills and personality traits and attitudes that have been found to be related to success in jobs and schools.

And then, the Dept of Education uses wonderlic as well ...

from: http://resources.wonderliconline.com/atb manual.pdf

The Wonderlic Basic Skills Test (WBST) is a short form measure of adult language
and math skills which are generally learned in high school. The content of the
WBST measures levels of General Educational Development (GED) as defined by the
U.S. Department of Labor in the Dictionary of Occupational Titles. As a measure of
basic language and math skills, the WBST can serve many purposes. The WBST is
commonly used to help identify students and job applicants who have the skills to
successfully handle the written and computational requirements of any career
training program or entry level job. The WBST is used by schools, government
agencies, industry, and private businesses in selecting applicants who are likely to
succeed. The WBST is also used to place individuals into educational functioning
levels and to evaluate improvement in skills as a result of educational training and
relevant experiences.
On October 25, 1996, the WBST was approved by the U.S. Department of Education
for use in qualifying non-high school graduates to receive Federal financial assistance
for postsecondary training under Title IV of the Higher Education Act of 1965. As
recommended, these students must be tested to determine whether they have the
ability to benefit from postsecondary school training programs. This testing has
become known as “Ability-to-Benefit” or ATB testing.

Wonderlic states "some" departments in the US and Canada use their Cognitive Abilities Test.

from: https://www.jobtestprep.com/law-enforcement-wonderlic
Testing
Police departments, both in the U.S. and Canada, have various testing for police officer candidates. Some departments use the Wonderlic assessment; usually the Wonderlic assessment used is the Wonderlic Cognitive Ability Test. Prepare online for your Wonderlic assessment so that you can be prepared for your police test!

Practice wonderlic cognative tests

A good description of the Wonderlic series is at https://www.jobtestprep.com/wonderlic-test

Yes, I agree New London's decision and not hire someone who scored well on it was a disservice and drove an opine that maybe less than stellar. I wonder how many make up that "some departments in the U.S. and Canada." We know New London CT lives by the test.

 

You have the right to keep on believing it isn't happening every day, even when you see new and different videos every day. Repeatedly quoting me seems like you are addressing me, but addressing me won't change the facts. Addressing me will not stop the flood of videos proving there is a serious problem.

I totally agree there is a deadly serious problem but there is zero actual evidence (it's mainly designed to help qualify minority candidates from the application pool) low I.Q. is the root problem of police misconduct. If you desire to tilt at windmills of your own design and desire then more power to you but because someone doesn't agree with all of your COPBLOCK dedications does not make them a police apologist. I don't think an I.Q. cap is a wise idea as the military is perfectly capable of effective brainwashing while keeping high I.Q. candidates.

 

I don't know who appointed you to the position of police apologist or asked you to defend the indefensible. I think you took up that job all by yourself.

He stated his qualifications a week or so ago. Using the term "sea lawyer". From here - www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sea%20lawyer

sea law·yer
noun
informal
noun: sea lawyer; plural noun: sea lawyers

1. an eloquently and obstinately argumentative person.

 

I don't think an I.Q. cap is a wise idea as the military is perfectly capable of effective brainwashing while keeping high I.Q. candidates.

And you are a perfect example of this being true.

 

Urban dictionary ... nice contemporaneous dictionary, however, it lacks the historical context.

from http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sea-lawyer

First use: 1805-1815

sea lawyer
noun
1. (nautical, slang) a contentious seaman

 

And you are a perfect example of this being true.

Thanks for the compliment. No hesitation or regrets.

 

He stated his qualifications a week or so ago. Using the term "sea lawyer". From here - www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sea%20lawyer

sea law·yer
noun
informal
noun: sea lawyer; plural noun: sea lawyers

1. an eloquently and obstinately argumentative person.

Better a 'sea lawyer' Shellback than the greatest slimy polliwog flopping next to King Neptune's toes.

http://www.jstor.org/stable/1498967?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

http://ww2db.com/other.php?other_id=17

In late Nov 1936, when American cruiser USS Indianapolis crossed the Equator with President Franklin Roosevelt aboard, even the leader of a nation was not subject to exemption. Roosevelt was made to plead his case before a seasoned sailor who dressed up as King Neptune, and had to go through some degree of embarrassment before he was granted the status of a Shellback. Like most sailors who went through this rite of passage, Roosevelt was given a certificate to show his status as a trusty Shellback.

Men who crossed the equator and completed the ceremony often received a certificate to commemorate the event. Decorated by drawings of mermaids and sea serpents, Roosevelt's certificate read:

Subpoena and Summons Extraordinary
The Royal High Court of the Raging Main

BE IT KNOWN, That we hereby summon and command you

FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT

Now the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy, to appear before the Royal High Court and our August Presence on the aforesaid date at such time as may best suit OUR pleasure under penalty of eternal pickling.

You will accept most heartily and with good grace the pains and penalties of the awful torture that will be inflicted upon you to determine your fitness to be one of our Trusty Shellbacks and answer to the following charges:

CHARGE 1. Disregard of the traditions of the sea.
Specification: In that Franklin D. Roosevelt, having, for many years sailed the high seas and bounding main, entirely through kindly assistance, toleration and consideration of his Majesty Neptunus Rex, has, for lo these many years, failed to appear in person to show allegiance to his Royal Highness, thereby masquerading as a man of the sea, and by this utter disregard added insult to other previous crimes.

CHARGE 2. Taking liberties with the piscatorial subjects of His Majesty Neptunus Rex.
Specification: In that, Franklin D. Roosevelt, having taken liberties with the denizens of the Realm of Neptunus Rex, by maliciously removing them from the depths of their recognized habitat, has permitted these acts to be publicized by print, town crier, and all other means of shameless publication; and, furthermore, has exaggerated this crime by the public humiliation of the greatest of these creatures of the sea, by stuffing them full of sawdust, and placing them in a position of eternal disgrace in a national museum where the eyes of all mortals may regard their pitiful and ignoble plight.

Disobey this summons under pain of Our Swift and Terrible displeasure
Our Vigilance is ever wakeful, Our Vengeance is Just and Sure

NEPTUNUS REX
Ruler of the Raging Main

DAVY JONES
Clerk

 

One of the leaders of 'Portland Resistance'.
http://www.kgw.com/news/crime/portland-anti-trump-activist-leader-accused-of-sex-abuse/394582060

He is a self-proclaimed leader of Portland's Resistance, a group which led disorderly anti-Trump protests.
...
The affidavit does not specify what led police to the victim and Rhodes now. It does say that in 2015, the Oregon Youth Authority informed Portland police that Rhodes reportedly confessed that year to having sex with the victim. At the time, Rhodes was on parole for first-degree sex abuse and first-degree sodomy crimes.

 

I see the "resistance" has changed their tactic ... they didn't impede traffic.