It is a form of harassment. My friend tells the cop, who pulled him over for BS reasons, that he is full of s#!t. The cop writes him a ticket that the cop knows he can beat but it will cost him a few hours of hassle to make it go away.

I go straight into the, "yes sir, no sir, may I lick your boots sir" dance. That has probably saved me thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours fighting B.S. tickets and charges which become perjury the moment they are written and signed. But, yes Dorothy, they do it to white people, too. Just, most white people start with the advantage of being white and play it for all it's worth. We know that one statement of truth will result in, "Don't get smart with me, boy." and two will get our license plate posted on the sun visor of every cop car in the county.

When I was 15, I stuck my tongue out at a cop. He rode me like a rented mule until I left that city.
After that, it has been butt shaped lips for every encounter.

 

I did change my cologne.

Did you try a lady cop?

 

I did change my cologne. I bought a minivan (Aerostar) with lots of windows. Since then, I have been pulled over twice, and both times, I was guilty. I had a burned out headlight on one occasion and I forgot to place the year sticker on my license plate in the other event. Now that I have an SUV that looks like a bunch of Men in Black might be in the rear seats, I don't know if that will change the equation.

When I had my custom bike in California I was pulled over a few times. The one time it got a little tense was when I just got back from an overseas tour and was speeding (a long ride across a lot of hot nothing) on the bike on 10 past Indio, Ca on my way back to Texas for a 30 day leave where the highway is a split level on the side of the valley. I saw the CHP headed the other way down the canyon but didn't slow down like an idiot. About 5 miles down the road he comes flying up behind me with the lights on. I was a Texas resident with a California DL and the bike was registered in Florida. That had him itching to write me up for something big until I showed him my military ID to prove I wasn't some drug dealing biker. I still got a ticket but it was just for doing 10 over instead of 80+ he knew I was doing while trying to catch me for a few miles.

 

it has been butt shaped lips for every encounter.

please don't put that image in my head

 

I was a Texas resident with a California DL and the bike was registered in Florida. That had him itching to write me up for something big until I showed him my military ID to prove I wasn't some drug dealing biker.

My point exactly. Some cop hyped up on a Big Bad Biker movie wants to make a Federal Felony case until you kiss his behind with information he doesn't have any right to know. How'd that butt taste, Mister guilty until proven innocent?

 

My point exactly. Some cop hyped up on a Big Bad Biker movie wants to make a Federal Felony case until you kiss his behind with information he doesn't have any right to know. How'd that butt taste, Mister guilty until proven innocent?

All I really wanted was for him to write (we talked a bit as he was former military) the ticket as it was about 115 on that side of the road with no shade. I don't really blame him for thinking what he did as I looked the part after leaving some fellow bikers from the ship in LA.

 

Well, I blame the many cops who pulled me over for looking like a kid in blue jeans and t-shirt on my way to or from school.
I blame the cop who gave me a ticket for speeding when I wasn't, and 4 days later (in the same block of the same street at the same time of the day) pulled me over for "obstructing traffic" because I was doing exactly the speed limit. I blame the cop who wrote me a ticket for going 55 MPH in first gear. I blame the cop who towed my car because he, "didn't know who it belonged to". I asked him if he tried checking the license plate and got the old familiar, "Don't get smart with me, boy." I blame the liars who are just out milking the herd because they don't have anything better to do, like solve crimes.

If you don't like cops, who you gonna call when you need somebody to show up in a few hours and write a report?

 

If you don't like cops, who you gonna call...?

Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd and the other guy?

 

 

Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd and the other guy?

Nope... I'd very much prefer to call Kristen Wiig... ... *sigh*

 

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Maybe this would be a much better cop deterrent:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/zing-thud-suspect-flings-batarang-seattle-police-car-n618271

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Maybe this would be a much better cop deterrent:

I think getting old helps. They don't see me as a challenge to their dominance, an ignorant kid, or somebody who can't afford a lawyer. Even if they win, what is there to brag about? "I have bigger huevos than a 65 year old man with a wooden leg?" Like my doctor said when I asked about immunization injections, "You don't have any risk factors." I haven't crossed a State Line since 2005 (Hurricane Katrina). I drive like your grandmother, except I stay in my lane and make sure the turn signal clicks off after I finish a turn. I don't drink. My car has a nice paint job. All the tires match and it has hubcaps. The only sticker on it is a AAA towing membership, 25 year member. My camouflage is pretty good, and when they run my plate, I haven't even had a traffic ticket in 40 years.

So yeah, I blend in. I look like a white Republican in a white Republican county.
That doesn't mean the police hold my rights sacred. They just figure there are better odds rousting other people.
The problem in my mind is that I could be next.
As long as uniformed police officers are raping, robbing, and killing people, I could be next.
Maybe the ACLU and BLM don't think it happens to white people, but it does.
We just have better odds.

 

Too many cops are not what we would like them to be. We can all admit that. @#12 has apparently been on the receiving end of more bad policing than most of us, but the recent exposure of bad policing is opening the eyes of many more people. This might lead to more support for improving local law enforcement. Many people have very little contact with the police except for an occasional speeding ticket. They assume a better level of professional policing than is actually happening. These daily videos might cause people to question their own assumptions about what their local police are doing.

I presume that we – the people that hire the cops with our tax dollars – could get higher quality cops by paying more for them. Different people, more training. (I'm sure there's a lot that could be done without a lot more cost, but as long as we have government in charge of law enforcement, we have to accept that it will be run inefficiently.)

So it comes down to choosing better cops versus all the other things we spend money on. Potholes, bridges, sewer lines, community development projects, and so on. What are we willing to give up to get better cops? We all would have some ideas of wasteful boondoggles along with our favorite oxen that we don't want gored. But this is what we expect our local government to look after, setting the priorities.

The "War on Cops" is the strategy of using the eye-opening that is going on now as a foot in the door for centralized control of law enforcement. It's the same old model: Expose a problem, fan the flames far out of proportion (transgender bathroom rights, anyone?) and suggest federal control as the panacea solution that they suggest for every problem.

 

some news out of canada http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/toronto/james-forcillo-sentencing-1.3698183

 

some news out of canada http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/toronto/james-forcillo-sentencing-1.3698183

Now you know why the police empty their guns into a criminal.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/james-forcillo-sammy-yatim-verdict-explained-1.3419217

"What the jury must have found was that during the first volley of shots Forcillo was acting reasonably, in fear for his safety or the safety of others, and thus was not guilty of second-degree murder or manslaughter," Neuberger says.

During the second round of shots, however, "Forcillo knew that Yatim was on the ground and incapacitated, and therefore the second volley of shots was meant to kill Yatim."

That second round of shots did not kill Yatim, because he was already fatally wounded. Therefore, although Forcillo may have had murderous intent, he was not charged with murder, Neuberger said.

'I was very confused by this verdict'
"There has never been a case of similar circumstances" where a verdict like this came down, says Neuberger.

"I was very confused by this verdict, because this whole interaction between Forcillo and Yatim is approximately 50 seconds, and the second volley of shots comes within seconds of the first volley of shots," he went on.

He doesn't see how it's possible that Forcillo developed murderous intent in such a short amount of time.

 

We can all admit that. @#12 has apparently been on the receiving end of more bad policing than most of us,

That recital wasn't even half of the experiences I have had. I just wanted to keep the length of the post reasonable.

 

I guess I've lived a charmed life. I've had very little contact with police and I'd estimate that maybe 3 in 4 of those contacts were professional. Speeding tickets, mostly. Of course I grew up watching the Chicago police giving beatdowns to protesters at the '68 DNC, and so made a mental note of avoiding contact with police when possible.

Our local Barney Fife once almost killed a friend of mine. He had pulled over a van, and my friend (stupidly) got out of the passenger side and came around from behind the van and the cop, who was approaching the driver side. When my friend's feet scuffed some gravel, the cop wheeled around and drew on him. Damn close.

 

was speeding (a long ride across a lot of hot nothing) on the bike on 10 past Indio, Ca

Memories. I almost wrote, "nostalgia" but it is not a good memory of spending days in a row on the flat, straight, hot as blazes, highway 10 through Texas. So boring. So nothing to see. So much urge to go 100 MPH just to get it over with quicker.

I have long said, "Texas should be about 6 states, just so you can tell you're making progress on highway 10." That state is 3 days wide at 55 MPH!

 

My dad once drove across Texas with some Turkish friends on their way to the Rose Bowl. (I'm not sure why they were that far south of Route 66, but they were.) The others went to sleep after they entered Texas and woke up in the morning expecting to be in California. Nope, still Texas.

 

Memories. I almost wrote, "nostalgia" but it is not a good memory of spending days in a row on the flat, straight, hot as blazes, highway 10 through Texas. So boring. So nothing to see. So much urge to go 100 MPH just to get it over with quicker.

I have long said, "Texas should be about 6 states, just so you can tell you're making progress on highway 10." That state is 3 days wide at 55 MPH!

I know highway 10 from just about end to end. While changing duty stations I rode my bike from Key West, FL to San Diego, CA on an earlier trip during the 70's. That's a long trip even doing 70+ just about the entire way.