I am assuming you've never heard joeyd go on about his hero Ayn Rand.

Ayn who? I heard she thought she was a great philosopher. I wish she sold cookies instead. I am russian, never heard of her until I came to N. America.

p.s. There is a war on pitbulls going on right now in Canada, pitbull lives matter! Rise up against breed specific discrimination!

 

Rookie mistake gets officer charged with murder:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ting-deravis-rogers-james-burns-murder-charge

Summary:
Answering a call about a person looking into parked cars (not a crime) an Atlanta police officer saw a man get in a car and begin leaving. Upon not witnessing this non pedestrian not committing a non-crime, the officer performed a perfect head shot through the side window of the moving car. The officer uttered the magical phrase, "fear for my life" but he forgot to jump in front of the moving car and killed the non-suspect from the side, leading to the first murder charge against a police officer by any District Attorney in Georgia in six years.

 

And they/we is/are going to make him hang but not the others...

I saw a man that was pinned down get shot dead by a police officer on the news. As in this is not a show nor a movie...

I understand why people are upset.

 

And they/we is/are going to make him hang but not the others...

Hey, it's a start.

 

True. It is really hard to look at the law enforcement getting away with murder...

 

I saw a man that was pinned down get shot dead by a police officer on the news.

That man being pinned down had a gun in his pocket and was reaching out to that gun. If you were the police officer on top of that, in that close proximity, what do you do?

Seeing can be deceiving.

He wasn't shot because he was black, contrary to what some people may want you to believe. He was shot because he wasn't willing to follow police command.

Which part of "Stop" do you think the police will need to explain to him / some people?

 

That man being pinned down had a gun in his pocket and was reaching out to that gun. If you were the police officer on top of that, in that close proximity, what do you do?

Seeing can be deceiving.

He wasn't shot because he was black, contrary to what some people may want you to believe. He was shot because he wasn't willing to follow police command.

Which part of "Stop" do you think the police will need to explain to him / some people?

Different guy Danny.

 

This came to mind .... http://thefreethoughtproject.com/court-police-departments-refuse-hire-smart/

The city of New London CT was taken to court.

 

That is the difference between trained and untrained people. It is amazing what people can do when properly trained. It is no longer stress, it is just another scenario.

You can not cover every situation in the what if scenarios. Look how quickly that protest leader shot that demonstrator when the protest leader accepted to participate in the training. That was one training scenario.

In real life, you train and train, and then hope like hell the trainee's make good decisions.

Monday morning quarterbacking has excellent clarity. In the moment is never that clear. You are dealing with humans, with all the human faults.

Now, you can make a case that the shooter needs more training at the range because he didn't hit his primary target.

Most people flee the cops because they don't want points on a license or they have an outstanding warrant for a minor pot or traffic offense - nothing worth being shot over.

They flee because they don't want to be arrested or jailed. If you dance to the music you pay the piper.

I maintain that being a cop is no different than dealing with the machines and equipment. Get them to map out the process and the various scenarios.

Go to your nearest police department and see if they will let you go through their shoot/no shoot training.

People aren't machines. Map out the process of a non-compliant person you approached for questioning.

 

People aren't machines.

True that!

http://thesmokinggun.com/file/doughnut-stabbing

 

it was hard to construct for a non-English speaker

Yeah... I know the feeling... you can say that again

 

That man being pinned down had a gun in his pocket and was reaching out to that gun. If you were the police officer on top of that, in that close proximity, what do you do?

Seeing can be deceiving

And you don't know what you said is true either. Just because the cops involved and right wing internet says that, the cops of course will say it to cover their ass.

 

Just because the cops involved and right wing internet says that, the cops of course will say it to cover their ass.

Are you suggesting that ONLY cops will lie and those who interact with the cops don't?

Open the prison doors. Shortbus had determined that all those incarcerated are innocent.

Due process in our legal system exists for a reason.

 

Are you suggesting that ONLY cops will lie and those who interact with the cops don't?

Open the prison doors. Shortbus had determined that all those incarcerated are innocent.

Due process in our legal system exists for a reason.

Is that what you managed to glean from shortbus's post? Maybe a revolution would raise the IQ of our country via something akin to buffalo theory.

 

I'm pro-police but their job is to enforce the law, not make it. Much ado about nothing.

I hope your right. I have a vision of another Texas biker shootout.

The most serious incident of the week at the RNC convention.

"Anti-Trump protesters burn the American Flag outside the RNC Convention and one lady accidentally lights herself on fire."

 

That is NOT what I gleaned from his post, but his blanket statement that COPS will cover their ass is incorrect. Some will, just like the rest of society. There is no special people mill where we get the police or the military or the politicians. They all come from the same source, humanity.

Us watching a video that starts after the cop take an action doesn't tell the story. It tells a partial story. I am not one who is ready to throw due process out the door to satisfy facebook or mob justice. Those that talk about rights of all citizens certainly fail to include the cops as a citizen. Before you ask, there are good cops and bad cops ... just like the rest of humanity, there are good people and bad people.

Anyone who isn't a felon can ask to ride along with their neighborhood police.

You don't see the justice department chasing after those who assaulted those who attended the Trump rally in San Jose. Why is that? It doesn't satisfy their agenda or the media's agenda.

 

No amount of persuasion can convince people what the "right" amount of policing is right for them.

The best solution is to let communities to decide how they want their communities to be policed.

If people want to crap where they eat, that should be fine -> end of the day, that's what "freedom" is all about, the right to self-determination.

 

If people want to crap where they eat, that should be fine -> end of the day, that's what "freedom" is all about, the right to self-determination.

We heard you the first time. Repeating it doesn't make it funny or true.

 

I in part blame the police officers for the current situation. For those communities that don't appreciate their efforts, they should just pack up and go somewhere else and let those people live in the cesspool that they want to live in.

After that, they may come to appreciate policing more.

 

That is NOT what I gleaned from his post, but his blanket statement that COPS will cover their ass is incorrect. Some will, just like the rest of society. There is no special people mill where we get the police or the military or the politicians. They all come from the same source, humanity.

I never said all cops. But the ones in the Alton Sterling I defiantly wouldn't want in my town. Let's see, there body cams fell off and stopped working right before the confrontation, not one cop but both of them, they confiscated the store video and the video that was released shows both of them on top of him at the time of the shooting. But he had a gun, in his pocket, but we're to believe he was going for it while having a cops knee on his throat. Yeah they are innocent!

It's ok for you to make a blanket statement about all of the shooting victims?